• Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world
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    No they fucking don’t. They have zero fucking days. Time is up and they DON’T CARE, they - the country of freedom - demonstrably want this.

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      They have no fuckign clue what to do. Nobody teaches you how to oppose a fascist dictatorship and there are zero leaders doing so. It’s an entire damn education and skills training regime that people are too desperately poor to afford to figure out individually.

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        Have you seen how people online react when you float the idea of strikes (or really anything beyond parades masquerading as protests) as a method of resistance? The vast majority of Americans demonstrably don’t care enough about fascism to do something about it. By the way the word isn’t “oppose;” it’s “overthrow.”

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          The inability, for those who do want to act, to get together is a major hurdle. We’re all surrounded by people who don’t care or can’t care. People wouldn’t feel so helpless if they actually found each other and came together regularly to talk, share info, suggest ideas, teach each other. There’s no reason a portion of the dem party cant self organize and start demanding real action, no party lines, no acceptance of the status quo.

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          It’s these fucking organizers ISTG, I haven’t seen anything serious planned except a protest at a park every 3 months. We saw how many people showed up to no kings yet the organizers behind no kings cannot be bothered to call for a strike or more frequent protests.

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            I mean, what makes those organizers special? They’re just people who decided to do a thing; none of what they’re doing can’t be replicated by someone else. If the problem is the organizers, then you or someone you know should be able to organize something better.

      • Venia Silente@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        They have no fuckign clue what to do. Nobody teaches you how to oppose a fascist dictatorship

        France taught us well. Americans love their lumberjacks, you can make a lot of guillotines with that.

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      I’m sorry you are already so defeated about our chances. Why don’t you just stand aside and collect yourself rather than try to demoralize the rest of us?

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        America demoralizes every friend and former ally and threatens WWIII.

        We are aside, watching America do nothing after decades of bragging about how free you were and how willing you were to stick up for it.

        There is no “rest of us” for us outsiders. America is doing this just like Russia invaded Ukraine and Israel is committing genocide, not some of their people.

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          Is America all one person to you or do you just ignore all the people fighting?

          Where the fuck are you from passing such harsh judgement?

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      You’re not helping. You might be worse than the idiots. You have the awareness to see what is happening, and this is how you respond.

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        The whole reason we’re in this is mess is people’s apathy and insisting the only thing they can do is vote for warmongering Democrats. Everyone is just working their jobs and living their life normally, when they should be out in the streets demanding heads on spikes.

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    People need to get it through their head that there will BE NO MIDTERMS.

    Trump has done this much in only 9 months, and he still has another 9 to find a way to never have elections again. He’s already got his Reichstag moment with the Charlie Kirk killing. He’s already declared that democrats are going to be investigated and that “left wing violence” is the enemy. Why the fuck do people think he’s done all of that if not to pre-emptively get some bullshit excuse to “postpone” the midterms?

    Get your heads out of your asses, Americans.

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      Trump has done this much in only 9 months, and he still has another 9 to find a way to never have elections again.

      Small correction: He still has 14 months before the elections themselves, and another two and a half months before those elected take office, to figure it out. In other words, he’s still got ~65% of his pre-Midterms term to destroy democracy.

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      Even if they do have em it doesnt matter with election fuckery like gerrymandering and other corrupt bullshit the ussa will pull

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      It’s wild as a Canadian watching for sure. All international news sources are still in on the koolaid as well because they have to be. For all intents and purposes midterms will happen but behind closed doors I bet all journalists would tell you it’s gonna be like a Russian election. The fix is in. What’s laughable is no one is saying it out loud yet and Americans aren’t fighting for their democracy.

      • 1/3 of America is full in on fascism
      • 1/3 of America doesn’t give a shit
      • 11/36 of America sees it and sits on their asses
      • 1/36 of America is actively trying to stop this
    • DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zoneBanned
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      What do you mean you dont have a democracy? You just aren’t allowed to vote on,

      -Corporate taxes

      -Gun and militia rights

      -Getting rid of mass surveillance

      -Ownership of your own data

      -Workers having time off work

      -Grassroot prosecutions of the rich and powerful by citizens

      -Anonymity online

      -Free speech

      -The right to access information

      -The foreign policy of the U.S

      -How many cops and prisons your country should have

      -Locally run elections and rational districting or abolishing the electoral collage

      -Not having 500 separate taxes for the honest and poor working man

      -Whether you should be allowed to buy medicine outside the medical cartel

      -Immigration

      -Transparency in the state process

      -Reinstituring the constitution above laws and executive orders

      -Removing controversial or dirtbags politicians from office

      -Banning corporate lobbying, making the electoral process public and transparent.

      -Not having tracking devices forced into every device you own and even your car.

      -whether you have to get skin cancer by not having window tint so CCTV can pick up your face as you drive by

      -Dmca and copyright

      -banning HOAs

      -Getting rid of state backed paper currencies

      -Owning and rooting devices you own.

      But don’t worry you can vote to take away each others human rights every election depending on how many of you are loyal and show up to vote for your elections. You are free to vote to strip trans people of rights one year, and Christians of rights the next year. You can strip hispanics of rights one year and white people of rights the next year. You can always vote for less corporate taxes! And more taxes for yourself. You can always vote to make your neighborhood safer by having policecorp tm and Black Rock come manage your security! Lots of homeless people out there these days. Policecorp would like to remind you to watch 15 minutes of advertising four times per day to get 15% off your security package from all those pesky homeless people who are too lazy to work 12 hour shifts in the papermill for snack money like you God fearing patriotic Americans.

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      Oh no, the president is fash, we elected him democratically. Time to give up without doing anything I guess, there is no way to elect anyone democratically.

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          Oh, so now you decided to believe him for some reason? In this case I have a underground bridge to sell you.

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          That’s how democracy in US works. It’s a bit of a shitty democracy for historical reasons, but everyone knew that before the election, it’s not a secret. That’s not even the biggest problem with it. It is a democracy nonetheless.

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              No, no it isn’t, I don’t even know what you might mean by that.
              The democracy in America implemented a bit shitty. It’s a forced two party system, not everyone’s vote has the same power, the casting of the vote is convoluted for no reason. It’s not the best way to implement a democracy, no doubts about it. Not the worst though, the first democracy ever was only available to land owning males, so compared to that the current American is outright inclusive.
              But it’s not some kind of new system, it was around longer than all of the voters were alive, so everyone should know how it works and how to use it. All Americans participated and made the choice. Using action or inaction, collectively, democratically, they elected Trump.

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    OK, lemme get this straight. This is a group project for 340M people with a deadline that is more than a year ahead. How do we think this will work out?

    • People will do nothing for another at least 10 months or so, then panic and do anything to at least have something to show for.
    • Most people won’t participate at all and hope that the rest will hand in something that they can claim ownership of.
    • When the deadline arrives, they will try to copy the democracy of neighboring nations, even though it’s far too late to change the outcome.
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    More accurate would be “Most Americans will find out that the United States is run by fascists in no earlier than 400 days”

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    Democrats are going to force another establishment elite that nobody wants as a leader and fuck it all up again, I bet.