In a written decision, Judge Gregory Carro said that although there is no doubt that the killing was not an ordinary street crime, New York law doesn’t consider something terrorism simply because it was motivated by ideology.
“While the defendant was clearly expressing an animus toward UHC, and the health care industry generally, it does not follow that his goal was to ‘intimidate and coerce a civilian population,’ and indeed, there was no evidence presented of such a goal,” Carro wrote.
Hope the rest of the trial goes with as much sense as this
I understand why they tried to throw those charges in, but I don’t like the inconsistency of doing so.
I agree this is a sensible outcome.
Because the Justice department is being run by headlines and idiots.
The emphasis on “intimidate and coerce a civilian population” is interesting. Seems to imply billionaires are not considered part of the civilian population. As they shouldn’t be.
Before we go giving the legal system a pat on the back for that, that’s not really what’s happening. The law is written with a high level of provable intent in mind, and that’s the only way it could possibly pass 1st Amendment muster. It’s really, really hard to prove anyone intended to intimidate anyone.
Amen - thank you, yes!
The only people without such animus either work for the industry or are shareholders.
It’s good to see things simmer back down to reality after all the inflammatory politically-motivated accusations. Everyone deserves a fair trial.
I remain unconvinced they even got the right fucking guy
Same
Anyone looking at the terrorism charge knew it was bullshit, but check this:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/16/luigi-mangione-terrorism-charges-dropped
““Counts 1 and 2, charging defendant with Murder in the First Degree (in furtherance of an act of terrorism) and Murder in the Second Degree as a Crime of Terrorism, are dismissed as legally insufficient,” Carro wrote. “The People presented legally sufficient evidence of all other counts, including Murder in the Second Degree (intentional).””
They didn’t just toss the terrorism addendum, they tossed two of the murder charges with the terrorism rider.
Free Luigi! Find the real killer!
The real killer is dead, he was the CEO
Luigi and I were hanging out in California that morning. He’s clearly being rail roaded.
Mouth, ass, pay. I’m missing words.
The cops have totally botched this case. No piece of evidence is not tainted, and that perp walk is enough to bias any jury. He should be let free (for a myriad of reasons).
Lmao that helicopter perp walk with the giant sniper/assault rifle guys. Transparently obvious what they were trying to accomplish
In a written decision released as Mangione appeared in court, Judge Gregory Carro said that although there is no doubt that the killing was not an ordinary street crime, New York law doesn’t consider something terrorism simply because it was motivated by ideology.
Obviously…
They say killing anyone wealthy is terrorism, because they don’t think fonus as real people.
They only care about wealthy bigots
Luigi did what he did in defense of all of us.
He should be freed.
“Allegedly did” at that.
I haven’t seen any statements from the defense that include an admission of guilt. Got a link to the source?
Excellent news. Now the prosecution needs to find and convince 12 people that he did it. I’m not sure they have the evidence to do that.
I don’t doubt they have evidence that irrefutably proves he’s the shooter…
The issue has always been legally admissible evidence.
I think they broke a shit ton of laws to find out who did it, then failed to retroactively create a “partel investigation” that would have legally uncovered the evidence so it could be used anyway.
Like, that’s pretty normal for cops. They break laws to solve a crime, make up some bullshit about how they’d have found it anyways, then overcharge to get a plea deal and avoid trial.
Luigi ain’t taking a plea deal, and while they may very well know it’s him, they can’t prove it in court
I think the term is “parallel investigation” or parallel construction investigation." I don’t doubt that you are correct though.
Yeah, that’s just a typo.
The whole thing is bullshit tho. When you already know where you’ll find evidence, it’s easy to justify after the fact how you could have legally been able to search that one place.
But they can’t narrow it down to that spot except by violating civil rights.
I do doubt they have evidence he is the shooter. Just the footage taken at the scene has details that don’t match with Luigi at all. He was in the area since the image from the hostel is very likely him, but just being in the general vicinity isn’t enough to convict.
Dude…
It’s 2025.
If you think the US government can’t tell who was on a street at a certain time and then search everyone’s cell phones and track where they’ve been to narrow it down to a very small number of people…
Like
I dunno what to tell you.
The sun also rises each morning and sets at night. And Tuesdays usually follow Mondays.
You are greatly overestimating the diligence of the police. All they care about is finding anyone to pin it on. They’re not doing all that work when they can frame a patsy much more easily.
This isn’t a random crime they don’t care about…
A wealthy CEO was killed.
This honestly isn’t that difficult to figure out why it’s different. But I feel like you’ve put zero logical thought into your multitude of strong opinions about this.
All the more reason to pin the blame on anyone they can as quickly as they can. You don’t want the plebeian masses getting the idea that their masters are vulnerable.
Now move on to hero charges
He looks innocent to me.
“Isn’t he dreamy?” The judge is on record saying.
And that’s the ball game.
Maybe now they can start looking for the real killer.
Face that gorgeous belongs in a museum, not death row
Free my boy
Where’s the evidences?!
His court date is December. Whatever they have will come then
Oh so this is just a circus till then?
Yahoo
