Makes me recall when calling out “Trump’s white America” apparently outraged some people in investing forum. Maybe those didn’t like their covers blown.
Remember when they put out a document that told us that they were going to do this, and exactly how, and people ignored it or called it “propaganda”?
I feel like the idiots who did this had troll’s calling it propaganda to make folks think it was bullshit
I work with someone, who’s not a stupid person, and not a Republican, and he told me at the time that it was propaganda that the Democrats put out.
Nothing I said got through. All I said was that we’ll have to revisit the conversation in 6 months. Haven’t talked to him about it again yet.
Religious participation is plummeting as the compassionate and reasonable people disassociate from Christianity
The right is splintering, and the Kirk shooter being a neonazi shows this
A neo nazi with a trans girlfriend? Now Ive seen everything…
If you have to lie to yourself to make your ideology make sense then it isn’t valid
And what do you call when you are so fucking balls deep in NEEDING to be right, that you all miss the fact that someone made a silly little joke comment…
Jesus, you people really are terrified of being wrong lol
That’s really weird way for you to say “I know I’m wrong but I want to force a narrative anyway”
lol What a sad cunt you are.
Christofascism. Fuck the US.
Are they fucking stupid? Do they not realize HOW MANY MINORITIES EXIST?
I pointed this out to some Nazis on Diaspora back in 2016 and their answer was asking how many Jews were in Europe prior to Hitler. They aren’t that bright, but their thought leaders do have an understanding of demographics.
They just want to change them, and I don’t think that they would rule out extreme amounts of violence to get the demographics they want.
And then it well come down to who is white? And some people won’t be the right white and they well go after them.
Fuck religion.
Yeah cause that’s what we all want. An unseasoned, mayonnaise salad called America.
I hate these stupid religious conservatives who don’t know what critical thinking is. Virus on society.
“Christian”
Theofascist.
Nationalist Christians, or NATCs for short
Thanks for this lol
MAGAts must be very jealous of Iran and Afghanistan.
This is what you voted for protest-non-voters.
Let’s forget a neolib Democrat was president and let an insurrection, election rigging, a child raping conspiracy, and more slide into the background.
You can literally vote blue and shit gets worse and then you’re an asshole for not voting blue. Fucking maga shits of another color.
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You figured it out! I used the phrase most likely to annoy “blue no matter who” tribal members. “Blue maga” isn’t going to listen anyways. Might as well control their reaction.
I might get a bunch of stupid replies and one serious one and if I prompt you guys like so it makes it easier to tell at a glance when I check my inbox.
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Real leftists have moved on from the election, while.fake “centrists” are still scapegoating leftists for their own defeat. You didn’t let us make any choices, you can’t blame us for the results
No true scotsman
The ones that keep insisting people “move on” are the same as the ones being scolded. Weird how that works.
Keep scolding and watch how much I roll my eyes
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I notice a trend with ml users.
Lol they deleted my comment.
Anyway, you know that I could just make an alt on another instance? I guess that would confuse you 😆
The lack of introspection is astounding. Ciao.
What should I be reflecting on?
But Harris had a shrill laugh.
… Psst…
The real reason she lost was that she has a vagina. But they know they can’t say that out loud. So, “shrill laugh” it is
Not nearly enough protest voters to account for the massive losses of supporters Kamala suffered for her pro-war, pro-genocide, neocon friendly campaign. It was easily one of the worst run campaigns in my lifetime, and despite how abhorrent Trump is, you shouldn’t be surprised at this loss. And you should be ashamed for continuing to blame voters, instead of the failures that are DNC leadership. Who else do we know of who routinely blames the powerless victims for their failures, rather than hold themselves accountable? Be better.
All the Dems had to do was hold a primary in good faith to show they gave a damn about democracy. Couldn’t even do that. Losers.
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Read: I didn’t read the article
He never does. Just mindlessly trolls and then sea lions when called out for it.
That’s an odd thing to say.
This is what Democratic leadership led us to.
Stop making this about the voters. Even if Kamala would have LIED about Gaza and made some amount of concessions, it would have rallied the factions. Her neoliberal ass couldn’t even do that.
Stop making this about the voters.
Now that’s a bizarre take. This is literally what people voted for.
I guess I should have been more particular, and referred to the entire electorate, or at least the electorate that was more inclined to vote for Kamala over Trump.
Bbbb bbbb but Blue Maga!!!
/s
What did i do?
Sorry, wrong number
The current state of American democracy is like having a cancer.
Dnc is the chemotherapy that might give you a few more years of losing sanity slowly, throwing up at all the steps. All the while withholding the medicine which might cure you but that is socialism.
Gop is quackery, it will kill you quicker but will be painful.
Not voting is like not taking any medicine. It is painful, it is guaranteed death but you are not wasting any of your resources on half measures.
Ahh the “b b b b b b b both sides same!”
Both sides are the worst. Not the same.
Like you next wording changes anything.
Everything republicans do is the progressives’ collective fault, and liberals never do anything wrong ever.
Nice strawman. Also, I am informing protest non-voters what they voted for.
This is the part where this conversation goes off the rails. Removing everything under this. It’s not productive.
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No, Liberals aren’t responsible for this, they could have sucked, but in the end you stood by and let the genocidal fascists take over.
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Okay, so I would be equally justified in saying: Liberals, this is what you get when you assume people must vote for you.
THANK YOU. This far down the road and they’re still ignoring this aspect.
Yes protest voters choosing to make things worse for Palestine and everyone in the US is stupid.
AND liberals and especially the party leadership made a huge miscalculation in assuming everyone would vote for “not Trump.”
Both contributed to the loss. Which is more to blame? There’s a discussion to be had there but imo the overall electoral strategy is a much bigger issue than a handful of stupid people who didn’t vote or voted Trump over this one particular issue
The party leadership isn’t here. Some of the protest voters are. Any statement posted on Lemmy is directed at the voters, not the leadership, and assuming otherwise is arguing in bad faith.
The voters had the opportunity to stop Trump. They didn’t. Many people on Lemmy actively encouraged people to let Trump win. He won. Those are the facts.
What I saw a lot of on Lemmy was democrat supporters and voters insisting that people will just hold their nose and vote for Harris and accusing anybody angry about the ongoing genocide of either supporting Trump or playing into the hands of Russia.
Any statement posted on Lemmy is directed at the voters, not the leadership, and assuming otherwise is arguing in bad faith.
Did I do that? Very confused.
The voters had the opportunity to stop Trump. They didn’t.
Ah yes, it’s all the voters’ fault.
If only the DNC had any power at all in this situation or ability to influence the actions of voters…
Yes, not voting is a vote for whoever won, it’s the same reason being “apolitical” doesn’t exist.
Nominating a candidate you know can’t win is voting for the opposition candidate.
Wait. Are we still talking about protest-non-voters? Trump hand gestures
Got another 3 years and 7 months of informing protest-non-voters what they voted for. Longer if you include time to fix things, which may be never.
You assume that there will be another election, with the current government, this is not a given.
Found the Republican. Republicans never miss a chance to try and stir up shit among the left.
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Project 2025 is a shit show and would turn the USA into 1979 Iran.
And 1979 Iran was helped to start by the CIA.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Revolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_activities_in_Iran
America just loves dictatorships so much it wanted a new one here at home.
*is turning. It’s over halfway implemented and accelerating fast
““Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’ Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’ Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’ And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”” Matthew 25:41-46 If only more people who claimed to follow Christ read and listened to what Jesus actually had to say about the kinds of people they are persecuting.
This might be my new favorite bible quote.
I’ve never had one before. I’ve been aware of a bunch. Maybe I would have chosen Austin 3:16 for a while as a smart ass teenager in the 90s. But now I have one and it’s this.
Maybe it was intentional and maybe it was luck, but to me this brief passage reaches deep into kinds of things that make for happy vs miserable people.
I can’t help but notice how Jesus pretty clearly points out that there is no hierarchy when it comes to caring for one another.
This is my favourite whenever people try to weaponise the Bible. Jesus said that he is the fulfilment of “the law and the prophets”, and even goes so far as to say some of the laws that were given were only because of how messed up the people of Israel were. If Jesus is the fulfilment of “the law and the prophets”, then what he says is authoritative over what is written in the Old Testament.
As an aside, in the Old Testament “God’s wrath” is most often seen in the form of letting a nation destroy themselves (usually Israel) by doing whatever they want instead of what God instructed them to do, which essentially boils down to the verses I originally quoted. Usually that meant being conquered by another nation or famine. Some may say that same sort of thing is playing out for MAGA. The people claiming to represent God have been doing exactly the opposite of what he told them to do, and now they’re getting what they wanted but it’s destroying them.
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This is not a Nazi bar.
This is news? … as in something new?
White Christian America has been promoting this for years
Yeah, 250 years.
In what way, shape or form is that christian? It’s fascism. When will the media finally call a spade a spade?
Christofascism is the spade. Fascism is the tool.
There were always more meanings to “christian”. Some of them rather sinister.
Francis acknowledged that America never had a national myth of a glorious past but thought it was a good idea to invent one. As Ganz archly observed, “the word for the politics that makes a pastiche of past glories to create a new type of regime is ‘fascism.'”
The truth is all this is above America. Live for humanity. Nations are tools for the sinister minded wealthy. If they don’t have tools they can’t work. Live for humanity.
