He added about Kirk, “He’s been one of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this, who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups. And I always go back to, hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions. And I think that is the environment we are in. You can’t stop with these sort of awful thoughts you have and then saying these awful words and not expect awful actions to take place. And that’s the unfortunate environment we are in.”
The media is clearly just corrupt and nothing but a propaganda piece if him saying that is sack worthy. That’s just a well informed statement
It’s well informed while being the mildest take imaginable. Doesn’t condone violence, doesn’t do a victory lap, just ever so gently connects one dot to another.
I would sack someone for using the phrase ‘sort of’ that often though.
Yeah it was all a very mild and true take. I do agree about the over use of “sort of” as well. Yikes, I realize now it’s really a lot after you pointed that out.
Hilarious that someone putting the truth out there gets canned.
It’s incredible that the fellow got fired over such a truthful and insightful comment.
I was in the US in my late teens, and one thing I realized almost straight away was how shallow American polemics about any socio-political topics were. American “free speech” polemics (among all other polemics) to me seemed like an attempt to act out and engage in theatrics that had nothing to do with the concept of free speech (which is actually an extremely complicated and nuanced topics).
There is a silver lining to this, I think at least some people (on the margin) might stop treating local polemics as undeniable truth.
MSNBC are just deferring to The Idiot.
And just like that, the right loves cancel culture
“He’s been one of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this, who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups. And I always go back to, hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions. And I think that is the environment we are in. You can’t stop with these sort of awful thoughts you have and then saying these awful words and not expect awful actions to take place. And that’s the unfortunate environment we are in.”
Was he wrong?
No but he wasn’t let go because of that remark.
He was let go for this
“We don’t know if this was a supporter shooting their gun off in celebration. So we have no idea about this.”
That’s what kicked of the uproar by snowflake Republicans and their Pearl clutching.
I mean it’s an absolutely ridiculous thing to say. He should get flack for how patentedly stupid that comment was. But probably not fired.
I completely agree. But I’m not a billionaire running a cable “news” outlet that can’t let a single dollar go away.
Jesus christ that man is a great comedian.
wow. so his “hateful thoughts lead to hateful actions” line lost him his job?
tucker Carlson did so much worse for years and was lauded for it. I guess because it was aligned with the networks priorities…
No, it was the “a supporter shooting their gun off in celebration.” line that upset people.
Here we have it, y’all. The leftmost TV news channel.
Still run by billionaires after all. Can’t be upsetting any portion of your gross profits, even if they are complete snowflake morons who support a white supremacist.
He didn’t say anything untrue. Charlie Kirk himself said that gun violence is an acceptable consequence of maintaining everyone’s 2nd amendment rights. This is the environment he advocated for. This is what killed him.
We live in a society where truth doesn’t mean a damn thing anymore. You know they will spin this in such a way that they actually gain from it, be it by limiting your rights further or by lying to impressionable idiots who then vote for them.
Regardless, objective truth as a marker has lost all its relevance somewhere after 2016.
No we live in a society where the truth is actively suppressed because wealthy people fear the population realizing they are badly losing a class war due to being tricked into a culture war. Kirk was a culture warrior. Any sort of consensus amongst the various factions is very bad for the owner class, and what he said might lead to an awakening, a la Luigi. What Dowd said risks that awakening.
What the fuck. He was asked about the environment we’re in and he said he always believed that hateful thoughts lead to hate words which lead to hateful actions. So we can’t be surprised that when we have hate thought and hateful words that we see hateful actions.
How did he condone political violence?!? He just answered the fucking question!
We really gotta stop appeasing the fascists.
Unfortunately, the fascists own the media.
Meanwhile every right-wing commentator on every right wing media outlet is calling for blood and wants to murder and incarcerate anyone just to the left of the Kaiser.
Fuck all network news. They’re all billionaires bullshit.
Free speech. What?
That’s not how free speech works there.
Or anywhere. Freedom of speech is about the government not restricting your speech. It has nothing to do with private relationships.
I tried this once with an ex and apparently there’s nothing the government can do to force gf’s to stay with you after you call them a dumb cunt ;/. Who knew?
Meanwhile, Greg Gutfeld still has a job after this.
one is at fox and one is at nbc
Wronful dismissal lawsuit bud; make them regret their move!
You’re of course right, but he already folded and apologized before they fired him.
Unless he can PROVE (what we all know) that the apology was a coerced lie, he probably doesn’t have a case, sadly.
Streisand effect time? Gonna follow this person now.
The comment about the supporter shooting the gun in celebration was slightly inappropriate. Everything else is spot on.