• CannedYeet@lemmy.world
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        90s kid doesn’t mean you were born in the 90s. It means you experienced your childhood in the 90s. So if you were too young to remember, it doesn’t count.

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          My personal cut off for ‘are you a Millenial’ is ‘do you know in significant detail where you were and what you were doing when 9/11 happened?’

          If no, because you were too young, you’re a Zoomer, Gen A, etc.

          Yep, my definition of Millenial is mass psychic trauma based.

          This is basically correct imo, the typical definition is from '81 through '96, you could probably roughly have a decently vivid memory of your parents freaking the fuck out from yourself as a 5 year old.

          But anyways, yeah, I was born when the Soviet Union existed, but I don’t consider myself an 80s kid, as I was born at the tail end of that decade and … don’t really remember experiencing much of it, directly.

          … Well, beyond mullets, ‘big’ female hair, and… 80s styled glasses.

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              Then you would be using a different term than ‘Millennial’, or you would be using that term… as a loan word, from a culture that was/is deeply influential across the world, and was also massively affected by 9/11.

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              Yeah, good luck with that definition. “Kid” is often used as the umbrella term for someone’s offspring, which includes babies and teenagers. Some slangs even use it to refer to just a guy, even if that guy is very much adult.
              You’ll inevitably talk to plenty people that don’t have your specific textbook definition in mind for when a baby turns into a toddler preschooler kid.

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            It makes perfect sense. Would you call a baby born today a “2020s kid”? They’re a baby, they won’t remember shit. They’ll be a kid (and adolescent) in the 30s. That’s when formative experiences will occur

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              I just want to say, this is the first time I’ve seen/heard the 2030s referred to as simply “the 30s” in a casual sentence. It still feels weird. But eh, that’s life. I still remember “2002” feeling like a far-off future.

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            I was born in the 70s, and I’m in no way a 70s kid. I was an 80s kid, and a 90s teen.

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              If they were born in 78-79, they’d have spent a good 3 years of childhood in the 90’s. Being 11 years old in 1990, it would be the mid-90’s before they hit their adolescent years. This would make them 90’s kids by the definition that they were kids in the 90’s that also remember the 90’s

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            Then you remember the 90s as a kid, which makes you a 90s kid.

            Like the other person said, when you are born has nothing to do with it. Spending the most formative years of your childhood in the 90s is what makes you a 90s kid. Sounds like you did, so you qualify.

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              This is meaningless gatekeeping imposed by older people on younger people. If you were a child in the 90’s you were a 90’s kid. The validity of your lived experience doesn’t depend on your current ability.

              By OP’s reasoning people who no longer remember their childhood no longer count as a kid for their decade. Eventually everyone will be dead and then according to the OP no one will have lived either.

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                  If you’re going to be doing this what style guide are you using? Why did you choose that one? Why is it the most useful option? You’ve made an entire account about enforcing apostrophe usage but don’t have any sources or explanation to back it up on your bio.

                  I thought it would be fun to try 90’s since that looks more appealing than '90s. We don’t use this ’ to cut off preceding symbols in anything other than 'twas which also looks wrong.

                  Then I thought It was useful that you were doing this because imposing whatever the current most used trend for apostrophes would help facilitate communication between the greatest number of English readers and writers. It would be democratic even.

                  Then I realized I had no idea what the current most used trend for apostrophes even was and without any sources no way of knowing if your style was anything resembling that. (I like 90s now btw.)

                  So then I looked up who even made grammar anyway and it turns out a lot of people but a couple individuals stand out.

                  https://www.wordgenius.com/who-actually-created-all-these-grammar-rules/Xr0yWBPAJQAG8w-n

                  The First Grammarian

                  Modern English grammar can be traced back to William Bullokar, a printer from the 16th century. Back in 1586, Bullokar wrote the Pamphlet for Grammar, which we now know as the first English grammar resource. His grammar resource compared English to Latin. He also created a phonetic 40-letter English alphabet, addressing the 40 different phonetic sounds he identified. His goal was to increase literacy in England and make it easier for foreigners to learn the language.

                  Robert Lowth is one of the more notable grammarians who built upon Bullokar’s work. He wrote A Short Introduction to English Grammar in the late 18th century, and this book formed the groundwork for many other grammarians as they standardized English grammar.

                  Lowth’s book became known as one of the first examples of prescriptive grammar, or one establishing the rules for how grammar should be used. By contrast, descriptive grammar simply explains how people actually use grammar.

                  Creating a System

                  Lowth wasn’t the only one who tried to standardize grammar. Many others preceded him and many more followed. British schoolmistress Ann Fisher was the first published female grammarian and an early user of an all-purpose pronoun. She wrote A New Grammar in 1745, shortly before Lowth’s work came on the scene, and her book was released in 30 editions over 50 years. Fisher’s work was one of the first to detail modern grammar practices, many of which are still in use today.

                  That all being said, what’s the style guide or grammar reference book every English writer on lemmy should refer to?

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            And I’m from '84 but I don’t claim the 80s because I barely remember starting Kindergarten in '89. If you honestly feel that remembering some cartoons at the end of the 90s qualifies you, I won’t deny your 90s kid membership.

            Also, I hardly see this as gatekeeping. If you can’t remember the decade, I think it’s fair to say you’re not a kid of that decade.

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            If they’d said ““All” 90s kids were born in the 80s,” yeah, that would be gate-keepy. However, they used “mostly,” which leaves room for outliers. If you remember the 90s, you can still fit the bill.

            Which means like it or not, you’re one of us. 🙃

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        '96 and up are not 90s kids, that’s Gen Z .

        You have to actually remember the 90s to qualify as a 90s kid, which basically excludes anyone younger than a Zillenial. If you were born in 1996-1999, you were an infant or very young in the 90s, so your memories of the time period are going to be vague at best. You can’t relate to 90s kids.

        Hell, smartphones had already replaced iPods by the time anyone born 1996-1999 was in middle school. That ain’t no 90s kid lol. 90s kids had a cassette Walkman and dial-up internet when they were in middle school. We were still rocking CD players and flip phones even into high school. Smartphones weren’t a thing until college.

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          ay yo fr fr — people born 1997+ = Gen Z, 1981–1996 = Millennials. facts.

          but lowkey memory flex ain’t everything: being a “90s kid” vibe = grew up with 90s culture/trends during your formative years, so someone born 1996 might catch some 90s vibes while a 1999 baby probs won’t remember squat.

          still, calling 1996–1999 “not 90s kids” is kinda cap if you mean strict generational cutoffs — 1996 is widely used as the millennial cutoff (Pew et al.). so both takes hit different lanes: one’s about birth-year labels, one’s about lived memories.

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          It’s alright for the most part. I’ve worked in the mining industry for 20 years now and I slowly paying the price. I have a bad back and I’m slowly losing my hearing. And yes I did take all the precautions to prevent this I think it’s just long term effects of the job. Beyond that it’s ok being 42. I have been trying to take better care of myself since Covid I have been eating better and I do morning stretches and light weight lifting. I wish i would have started doing more when I was younger.

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      There’s no rules. Millennials are called that because they hit adulthood around 1999-2001ish. So all children in the 90s.