90s kid doesn’t mean you were born in the 90s. It means you experienced your childhood in the 90s. So if you were too young to remember, it doesn’t count.
My personal cut off for ‘are you a Millenial’ is ‘do you know in significant detail where you were and what you were doing when 9/11 happened?’
If no, because you were too young, you’re a Zoomer, Gen A, etc.
Yep, my definition of Millenial is mass psychic trauma based.
This is basically correct imo, the typical definition is from '81 through '96, you could probably roughly have a decently vivid memory of your parents freaking the fuck out from yourself as a 5 year old.
But anyways, yeah, I was born when the Soviet Union existed, but I don’t consider myself an 80s kid, as I was born at the tail end of that decade and … don’t really remember experiencing much of it, directly.
Then you would be using a different term than ‘Millennial’, or you would be using that term… as a loan word, from a culture that was/is deeply influential across the world, and was also massively affected by 9/11.
Yeah, good luck with that definition. “Kid” is often used as the umbrella term for someone’s offspring, which includes babies and teenagers. Some slangs even use it to refer to just a guy, even if that guy is very much adult.
You’ll inevitably talk to plenty people that don’t have your specific textbook definition in mind for when a baby turns into a toddlerpreschooler kid.
It makes perfect sense. Would you call a baby born today a “2020s kid”? They’re a baby, they won’t remember shit. They’ll be a kid (and adolescent) in the 30s. That’s when formative experiences will occur
I just want to say, this is the first time I’ve seen/heard the 2030s referred to as simply “the 30s” in a casual sentence. It still feels weird. But eh, that’s life. I still remember “2002” feeling like a far-off future.
If they were born in 78-79, they’d have spent a good 3 years of childhood in the 90’s. Being 11 years old in 1990, it would be the mid-90’s before they hit their adolescent years. This would make them 90’s kids by the definition that they were kids in the 90’s that also remember the 90’s
Then you remember the 90s as a kid, which makes you a 90s kid.
Like the other person said, when you are born has nothing to do with it. Spending the most formative years of your childhood in the 90s is what makes you a 90s kid. Sounds like you did, so you qualify.
This is meaningless gatekeeping imposed by older people on younger people. If you were a child in the 90’s you were a 90’s kid. The validity of your lived experience doesn’t depend on your current ability.
By OP’s reasoning people who no longer remember their childhood no longer count as a kid for their decade. Eventually everyone will be dead and then according to the OP no one will have lived either.
If you’re going to be doing this what style guide are you using? Why did you choose that one? Why is it the most useful option? You’ve made an entire account about enforcing apostrophe usage but don’t have any sources or explanation to back it up on your bio.
I thought it would be fun to try 90’s since that looks more appealing than '90s. We don’t use this ’ to cut off preceding symbols in anything other than 'twas which also looks wrong.
Then I thought It was useful that you were doing this because imposing whatever the current most used trend for apostrophes would help facilitate communication between the greatest number of English readers and writers. It would be democratic even.
Then I realized I had no idea what the current most used trend for apostrophes even was and without any sources no way of knowing if your style was anything resembling that. (I like 90s now btw.)
So then I looked up who even made grammar anyway and it turns out a lot of people but a couple individuals stand out.
Modern English grammar can be traced back to William Bullokar, a printer from the 16th century. Back in 1586, Bullokar wrote the Pamphlet for Grammar, which we now know as the first English grammar resource. His grammar resource compared English to Latin. He also created a phonetic 40-letter English alphabet, addressing the 40 different phonetic sounds he identified. His goal was to increase literacy in England and make it easier for foreigners to learn the language.
Robert Lowth is one of the more notable grammarians who built upon Bullokar’s work. He wrote A Short Introduction to English Grammar in the late 18th century, and this book formed the groundwork for many other grammarians as they standardized English grammar.
Lowth’s book became known as one of the first examples of prescriptive grammar, or one establishing the rules for how grammar should be used. By contrast, descriptive grammar simply explains how people actually use grammar.
Creating a System
Lowth wasn’t the only one who tried to standardize grammar. Many others preceded him and many more followed. British schoolmistress Ann Fisher was the first published female grammarian and an early user of an all-purpose pronoun. She wrote A New Grammar in 1745, shortly before Lowth’s work came on the scene, and her book was released in 30 editions over 50 years. Fisher’s work was one of the first to detail modern grammar practices, many of which are still in use today.
That all being said, what’s the style guide or grammar reference book every English writer on lemmy should refer to?
90s kid doesn’t mean you were born in the 90s. It means you experienced your childhood in the 90s. So if you were too young to remember, it doesn’t count.
My personal cut off for ‘are you a Millenial’ is ‘do you know in significant detail where you were and what you were doing when 9/11 happened?’
If no, because you were too young, you’re a Zoomer, Gen A, etc.
Yep, my definition of Millenial is mass psychic trauma based.
This is basically correct imo, the typical definition is from '81 through '96, you could probably roughly have a decently vivid memory of your parents freaking the fuck out from yourself as a 5 year old.
But anyways, yeah, I was born when the Soviet Union existed, but I don’t consider myself an 80s kid, as I was born at the tail end of that decade and … don’t really remember experiencing much of it, directly.
… Well, beyond mullets, ‘big’ female hair, and… 80s styled glasses.
Or just lived in third world country where nobody cares about 9/11
Then you would be using a different term than ‘Millennial’, or you would be using that term… as a loan word, from a culture that was/is deeply influential across the world, and was also massively affected by 9/11.
We do accept those born in 99 but I’m afraid they won’t get it
That makes people born in the 80’s and late 70’s 90’s kids…it makes no sense.
90s kids = 80s babies
Yeah, good luck with that definition. “Kid” is often used as the umbrella term for someone’s offspring, which includes babies and teenagers. Some slangs even use it to refer to just a guy, even if that guy is very much adult.
You’ll inevitably talk to plenty people that don’t have your specific textbook definition in mind for when a baby turns into a
toddlerpreschoolerkid..ml really has gone downhill with its low-effort SOP exports…
It makes perfect sense. Would you call a baby born today a “2020s kid”? They’re a baby, they won’t remember shit. They’ll be a kid (and adolescent) in the 30s. That’s when formative experiences will occur
I just want to say, this is the first time I’ve seen/heard the 2030s referred to as simply “the 30s” in a casual sentence. It still feels weird. But eh, that’s life. I still remember “2002” feeling like a far-off future.
I was born in the 70s, and I’m in no way a 70s kid. I was an 80s kid, and a 90s teen.
If they were born in 78-79, they’d have spent a good 3 years of childhood in the 90’s. Being 11 years old in 1990, it would be the mid-90’s before they hit their adolescent years. This would make them 90’s kids by the definition that they were kids in the 90’s that also remember the 90’s
'77 made it even better, I hear.
the ’80s* and late-’70s*–’90s* kids
I remember watching Power Rangers and Barney in the 90’s which I was born. Take that meaningless distinction.
Then you remember the 90s as a kid, which makes you a 90s kid.
Like the other person said, when you are born has nothing to do with it. Spending the most formative years of your childhood in the 90s is what makes you a 90s kid. Sounds like you did, so you qualify.
This is meaningless gatekeeping imposed by older people on younger people. If you were a child in the 90’s you were a 90’s kid. The validity of your lived experience doesn’t depend on your current ability.
By OP’s reasoning people who no longer remember their childhood no longer count as a kid for their decade. Eventually everyone will be dead and then according to the OP no one will have lived either.
in the ‘90s*
*in the 90’s
Repeating it doesn’t make it less wrong 😄
Wrong to who? You?
If you’re going to be doing this what style guide are you using? Why did you choose that one? Why is it the most useful option? You’ve made an entire account about enforcing apostrophe usage but don’t have any sources or explanation to back it up on your bio.
I thought it would be fun to try 90’s since that looks more appealing than '90s. We don’t use this ’ to cut off preceding symbols in anything other than 'twas which also looks wrong.
Then I thought It was useful that you were doing this because imposing whatever the current most used trend for apostrophes would help facilitate communication between the greatest number of English readers and writers. It would be democratic even.
Then I realized I had no idea what the current most used trend for apostrophes even was and without any sources no way of knowing if your style was anything resembling that. (I like 90s now btw.)
So then I looked up who even made grammar anyway and it turns out a lot of people but a couple individuals stand out.
https://www.wordgenius.com/who-actually-created-all-these-grammar-rules/Xr0yWBPAJQAG8w-n
That all being said, what’s the style guide or grammar reference book every English writer on lemmy should refer to?