This isn’t a joke it’s testing the waters.
This is always how he starts things.
He’s not testing the waters.
He’s normalizing the illegal discourse.
And if he does that. Expect people to do some nasty business in response to his dictatorship.
I really don’t have hope in Americans to do so. I hope I’m wrong.
The only hope I have left is the hope that I’m wrong.
Trump doesn’t joke
We’ve had elections during a war before and we can do it again. Ukrainian laws don’t apply to the US.
Yeah, the law pertaining to not holding elections during martial law in Ukraine was created during another person’s presidency as well. He didn’t make that. (It stemmed from Russias invasion into Ukraine in 2014, law made in 2015). Zelensky didn’t become president until 2019.
If the war was closer or even inside the US, it might be a different thing. I wouldn’t be surprised if he could still consider it though.
1864 begs to differ.
Don’t forget 1812 either.
I can’t help but feel like a civil war is a different scenario. Russia currently controls 20% of Ukraine. For the sake of simplicity, that’s 10 US states. I have a very hard time believing that if a foreign country had complete control of 10 states, and the majority of the people of those states, for all intents and purpose were unable to vote, an election would go over smoothly. I have to imagine it would be an utter shitshow.
Practically, if the US was actually occupied by a foreign force (having a puppet president doesn’t count), then the occupied areas will not be able to cast their ballots, and the states being partially occupied will have a biased result and electors will be appointed by those living in unoccupied areas. If a whole state is occupied, they probably would have electoral votes that are not cast (since they wouldn’t have a certificate of ascertainment from the now defunct state government). Election would get very ugly even if its a 51/49 split in the remaining electoral college votes since if, say, a state with 18 electors is occupied, one side could get 265 electoral votes and the other gets 255 electoral votes, so there would be a constitutional crisis on whether this counts as a majority (265/520) or not a majority (265/538).
But I’m guessing they’ll go by Civil War precedent and just exclude the occupied states from being counted so its probably 520 as the total electoral votes using that same example.
I see where you’re coming from, though I would argue that if we’re at war in '28 it won’t be because the US was invaded by a foreign power.
He is NOT JOKING. This is his plan.
You think he’s deploying the military on US soil because he gives a fuck about law and order? Guess again. He’s testing the waters now to see what he can get away with when the time comes.
Federal elections have never been cancelled or postponed in the history of the nation. Not even for the Civil War, or WWII. It’s mandated by the constitution.
Same how the 14th Amendment to the Constitution is basically invalidated as long as some states hold off on challenging his EO undoing it.
He’ll do some “Elections will happen, but only in states that are nice to me and I expect to win” EO and will basically take CA and IL out of the results, and their results won’t be certified by Congress. Because right now it’s a race to rig 2026 to save donor campaign money.
lol cool so he just said the quiet part of the playbook out loud.
For those in the back: he’s gonna get the US in to a Serious Fucking War right before the next election so that he can pretend he’s got justification to call off elections.
Pay no mind to the fact that FDR won his third term at the peak of WW2.
Come to think of it: that’s probably why he wants to do it: he knows he probably can’t win another election (putting aside the illegality of running and serving for a third term), and doesn’t want to think about himself being overshadowed by “some old librul Democrat from the 1940s”. And yes, that is a completely serious guesstimate on orangeboi’s rationale for this.
That’ll be before the midterms, in case anyone wasn’t clear about that.
He truly just cannot help himself… Could be our one saving grace. That and the sheer incompetence.
Zelenskyy’s comment about war and instability was NOT BEING THE SIDE THAT STARTED THE WAR.
IMPORTANT DISTINCTION.
anyways, EPSTEIN FILES. WHERE THEY AT?
It’s not even that. It’s about what the country’s structure permits. Ukraine doesn’t allow for midwar elections, the us doesn’t allow for skipping them.
IMPORTANT DISTINCTION.
It’s really not. Lincoln held midterms in the middle of the Civil War. FDR held elections after Pearl Harbor. Ffs, Bush cleaned up the year after 9/11 and rode the pro-war election wave through 2004.
The idea that your elected leadership is immune to recall when you’re in a state of war is anathema to democracy. It insulates unpopular leaders and empowers military dictators.
There is no distinction, save that liberals like Zelensky and hate Trump.
Bush was in the middle of his term a year after 9/11, I assume you mean the Republican Party?
Bush’s party, the Republican Party, took the majority of the legislature after 2002 and greatly expanded the powers of the chief executive office that Bush held.
“yes” would have been much easier to type, just for your future convenience
I was a teenager around that time, and I remember Bush being insanely popular for awhile.
So Putin invades Alaska in 2028 to give him an excuse, got it.
Also America has never really been invaded during an election…at least not its homeland…to any significant extent. The civil war is the best example, but that wasn’t even a foreign enemy. Now if China say invaded the west coast, and cities like Portland, LA, San Diego, etc are solidly in Chinese hands wiht the Chinese moving across the rockies and the President and Congress come along and and collectively go “We think we should pause elections until things get stable”…I’d have a hard time arguing against that.
He isn’t joking and you shouldn’t pretend he is
Dang… he’s still alive. Maybe tomorrow.
From your lips to the ears of God 🙏
Amen
News flash people, he’s not fuckin joking. Arm yourselves while you can.
You motherfuckers are already armed. But he’s not black or a child no no one is gonna shoot him anyway
Don’t know why you got a downvote, you’re not wrong.
Because white people aren’t shot in the U.S.
https://www.kff.org/state-health-policy-data/state-indicator/firearms-death-rate-by-raceethnicity/
Does a civil war count?
That’s exactly what he’s hoping for.
He’s militarizing cities as we speak. If he keeps amping it up, protests will theoretically follow. MAGA will find some reason to claim these protests “turned violent”. Trump declares martial law and cancels elections. Done.
This is a trial balloon
Ya’ll think the US will ever collectively understand that they can’t keep pretending like these things are jokes or “wouldn’t actually happen”? I swear, Trump could grow a little mustache and people would be saying “oh no, I can’t believe we’re about to fall into fascism!”.
No. Literally warned people and yelled at them that we would be inviting kidnappings (ICE), abortion rights, and gay rights, civil rights… damn there is so much that has already has happened. He can do no wrong to his base and the Supreme Court here and congress has pretty much given him free rein. The cognitive dissonance is astounding.
I guess if they keep pretending it’s only ever “just getting started” they can pretend as if their inaction was warranted.
Yeah pretty much “we have to wait and see” is what is frequently parroted after everything I have said to try to get these people to see the massive error that is going kill them and the rest of us with them.
Honestly the Trump/ Epstein thing is the closest I’ve seen them wake up too this time (since we’re shown the evidence when it first blew) , but this time it doesn’t seem to be sliding down as easily, but I’m almost positive Trump will find a distraction e.g. such as war…
They fucking told us. “He’s not hurting the people he needs to be hurting”. They don’t care if they go down with the ship as long as brown people do as well
I think cruelty is what they want. Our society is built on cruelty, genocide and disenfranchisement. The progress we made was the fluke. I hope we will learn but I see people all around who are cheering all of this on.
That’s what this shitfuck does. He ‘jokes’ about an idea, then repeats it until it sounds normal, then does whatever the fuck he wants and nobody does anything about it.
Joking?
Industrial strength “Joking” being used in this headline.
Trump has no sense of humor nor has he ever told a joke.
Release the Trump/Epstein files
“by joking” you fucking dumbwits, are you not learning at all? He doesn’t care if he can or not, he will bruteforce his way through legislation with his MAGAlitia. They are ALREADY utilizing fear and suppression with their masked terrorists kidnapping people off the streets or posting up next to demonstations. If you are not acting now, tomorrow might already be too late.
