cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/43241710

And everyone thought registries were only for sex offenders. If it works to punish them then why not on those who don’t want to work?

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    Does the bill create a registry of employers who come to interviews they schedule unprepared?

    Does the bill create a registry of employers who have jobs listed that they aren’t actively hiring for wasting applicants time?

    Does the bill create a requirement to post the hiring wage range so as not to waste everyone’s time?

    Unilateralism is fascism.

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      How about interviewers who ghost applicants? I have literally been sat in an office for an hour and a half, with nobody telling me what’s going on before I got told “oh that interviewer isn’t in today, I’m not sure why he scheduled you.”

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        I had one that “got pulled into a meeting”. Um, she had a meeting, with me!

        I was eventually offered the job two or three weeks later, which I declined. In that time I had accepted a position with a company that had their shit together. This one had the nerve to ask “When were you going to tell us?” after ghosting me for weeks! I said, “I just did.”.

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      This would make a great website. Match job listings with this type of data. Get all job applicants on there and then set strict criteria for companies to post jobs on there. Enshitify the entire process for the companies and make them beg to have their ads shown.

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    Somewhere between 1 in 5 to 1 in 3 jobs aren’t real.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelwells/2024/08/13/36-of-job-adverts-are-fake-how-to-spot-them-in-2024/

    The disagreeing congressmembers should just tack on that if people are put in lists because they are required to show up to interviews that all interviews must be paid, and any any job found to be fake or misrepresenting a job lead that does not exist should have to pay each person who applied a fine of $100,000 and up to 1 year in prison like the law is for pirating a movie. Watching a digital copy of a movie that doesn’t exist is surely not worse than dangling people’s means of survival on a stick and trying to make money off their misfortunes.

    Thus every job posted will be required to be in one registry and proof that it has been filled. Jobs must be reported on the site for no more than 3 months and to remove it must have a 50% of the posting times notice. Each role must be listed separately if there is more than one position. Any company found to have hired someone without posting to the job registry will be fined no less than 5% of the companies value to their local communities food shelters, and have their business license removed and company dissolved of all assets and given to the local community/shelters if 2 infractions are had within 365 days.

    If people are having to apply for 200 jobs and it is common that all 200 of those applications fall through then we should be enforcing practices on businesses to take hiring more seriously, if they want people to take their posting more seriously.

    StandoutCV stated in their research “Based on these findings, we can deduce that the average person has to make 162 job applications to land a job.”

    Frankly that’s rediculous to assume people should be able to track 162 different job applications and ensure they keep up with every appointment, while remembering 32-54 of those jobs turn out to be fake in the first place.

    This would be to ensure professionalism, as they say is the reason for their bill.

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    The registry is to identify people who need extra help with transport or child care so we can target additional resources to help them get hired, right? Right? RIGHT?

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      Well, that would just be impractical, right??? I mean what purpose could there be in a register of people with the actual weapons, constitutionally-protected or not, that are most often used to murder dozens of people in a single sitting?

      Next you’ll be wanting to use that registry to make sure that certifiable crazy people can’t get a modified semi-automatic rifle and possibly attempt to keep people safe. What use could that bring?!?

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    Wouldn’t this be super exploitable? What’s to stop me from setting up a bot that auto-applies to tons of jobs on behalf of people I don’t like, thus making them “skip” whatever interviews come out of that?

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      Amazing how many Ohio state reps are looking for work right now, but not showing up to any interviews…

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      I’m going to stop you. For like 5 minutes so you can throw the program in a zip file and share it with me. Thanks

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    Only very tangentially related to this

    I work in 911 dispatch. Part of our hiring process is after the initial interview and aptitude test, they have applicants come in to do a job shadow with us for an hour or two. Basically just sit with us while we’re answering and dispatching calls, see what the work we do is actually like, gives them a chance ask us questions, and we can kind of feel them out to see if they’d be a good fit.

    And a shocking amount of people make it to that stage and then don’t show up for their job shadow.

    I’m admittedly biased, since I work here, but I feel like even if I didn’t actually have any interest in the job, that would be an interesting peek behind the curtain that I’d still want to see regardless.

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        No more than for any other sort of job interview. They’re not answering calls, they’re sitting there listening.

        And honestly I thought it was a great experience when I got hired, it gave me a real inside look to what the workplace culture was before I started here, and a chance to talk to and ask questions to people who are actually doing the job I was applying for instead of some HR/supervisor/deputy director type.

        And since we obviously work 24/7/365 we can pretty much make any time work for these applicants, so they don’t need to take off from work or anything to come in and do it. We get a lot of them on nights and weekends.

        It’s also pretty necessary to make sure people can handle it. It can get really intense at times, and seeing an incident unfold in real time is a very different experience than listening to a recording of a call after the fact. Class space to train new dispatchers is limited, and almost every dispatch center is constantly short-staffed, so we really need to make our hires count, and we lose plenty enough throughout the training process as it is, we don’t want to spend a couple months training someone only to get them out on the floor to realize that they can’t emotionally handle listening to, let alone actually handling 911 calls.

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        Did you miss the part where they were not answering any calls or doing any hands on work? The shadow is for the applicant to observe and see if they still want the job.

        911 dispatch is not flipping burgers, peoples lives are at stake. They need to be on their toes and not have cold feet if they realize they can’t handle the stress or are in way over their heads.

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          Still work, and no one should do it for free. I worked at a lot call centers and even had an ex who did 911 calls. You don’t work for free. To easy to exploit. Also heard they don’t pay worth a shit compared to the trauma you experience working there. Probably why they don’t show up. Its pays shit and even just watching is work. And don’t try make it out as if it’s easier then other type of work.

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        You must be 15 and never had a job if you don’t understand that shadowing is not working for free.

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      You should test calling it an interview and not giving details. See if it changes the ghosting percent. My guess is that for most people, a job at 911 is a last resort. Many have heard how tough it is emotionally. So they probably got another offer by then and just took it.

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        A lot of things vary from one agency to another, but where I work I don’t think most people would consider this a last resort job. Most of us are here either because this is what we want to do or because it’s a good career builder towards other public safety/law enforcement type jobs.

        For my part, if I have to work, I think this is about as good as it gets for me. I like the hours, the pay isn’t amazing but it’s livable, benefits are solid, and it’s interesting and satisfying work.

        It’s also not the quickest hiring process since they usually wait until they have a few people to run a training class, it’s been a few years now but I believe I did my aptitude test and interview in mid August (same day because they were doing a hiring event, sometimes they have to get scheduled separately) did my job shadow a week or two later with another short interview, got my conditional offer around mid September, had to do a drug, hearing, and vision test and a psych eval, and class started in about mid-late October, so about 2 months start to finish.

        I have a friend who tested at the same time as me and got picked up for the next class they ran, so it was a couple extra months for him.

        And some other agencies have extra steps in the process. More rounds of interviews, really in-depth background checks with interviews with the sheriff and a polygraph test and such (thankfully the agency I work for isn’t like that since polygraphs are bullshit)

        No not ideal for someone who really needs a job ASAP.

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          I have friend who works for 911. And I agree that the people who do the job don’t consider it a last resort. But of the people who “apply” for the job, I suspect many do simply because of the reputation for impacting a person’s mental health. But the rest of what you said gives me another potential cause. Drug testing. It possible some didn’t read the application in full or misunderstood some of the ongoing testing that happens as part of the job. The first interview probably enlightened some of them on the subject. That may cause them second thoughts after scheduling the shadow. I would expect it to be even more the case if the scheduling of the shadow happens the same day as the first round of interviews. But many people will see scheduling the shadow as nothing to lose, and delay deciding if they really want to go foreward until the last minute.

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    Next on job interview questions list: Do you have any physical impediment to pregnancy?