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Democratic governments should allow all voices to be heard, not silence speech they dislike.
That’s real fucking rich coming from the government that:
- Removed all references to “trans-” regardless of context.
- Retaliates against left-leaning press.
- Calls information they dislike “fake news”.
- Sends immigrants to concentration camps.
I’m not even joking, I thought that whoever wrote this tweet was supporting the French investigation when I first read that.
EU is not much better.
You have to be real careful with controversial subjects such as not liking genocide.
And plenty countries have forbidden communism.
Not to mention not honoring elections in Romania and anulling them, and not letting the winning party participate again.
Even if it is a horrible right-wing party that won, that is still a mask off moment.so what do they do with transport? Or foreign companies using trans in their name?
I’m waiting for the conniption when all these people find out that the cars and trucks they drive have transmissions.
What did they do indeed
Of course the US will fight tooth and nail to keep its propaganda machines at work all around the globe.
While defunding NPR and PBS.
You have to believe that the French government have evaluated in the same week the risk of recognising Palestine and condemning a US company against how vindictive the US government are right now. Hopefully they stick to their guns on both.
Them: Democratic governments should allow all voices to be heard
Us: Free Palestine
Them: Terrorist!
Ask Stephen Colbert about the US’ vaunted “free speech”.
Colbert didn’t go to prison, not really a good argument.
There are many ways to suppress speech.
“Free speech” doesn’t entitle you to dictate policy over privately held companies. We spent four years trying to convince Trumpers of this. Be smarter.
Like axing a show that didn’t make money ?
That a poor comparison since on x the moderations is about random citizen and not paid employee doing a work for a company that a the end of the day is free to choose how to spent her money
It did make loads of money though? Why do you get to just push blatant lies?
how much ? cause the cost is high too. anyway
However, the “pros” ultimately won out because, according to sources close to the network, “The Late Show” was losing money and there was no apparent path to turning around its financial position. source
For the same freedom of speech reasons that we’re applying to Colbert. That jerkwad is just as entitled to lie as they are to tell the truth, and it’s up to everyone else to call them out on it.
Can someone explain why a post in favour of free speech is being downvoted on lemmy ?
Like axing a show that didn’t make money ?
Even if that were true, which it isn’t, what business does the president have even mentioning it much less making a demand?
However, the “pros” ultimately won out because, according to sources close to the network, “The Late Show” was losing money and there was no apparent path to turning around its financial position. source
Colbert didn’t go to prison
I’m sure Colbert’s on the list somewhere.
Oh so the thing that HASN’T HAPPENED is your counterargument?
You are on my list. So what? Neither of you are in prison.
Why is this downvoted? It correctly point out what “free speech” actually means.
It’s a visceral reaction, my guess. It’s exactly the same argument that right wingers used when oreilly, carlson, etc got canceled.
Not paying someone millions for saying stuff on TV is not infringing on free speech, now apparently it’s leftists turn to not understand it.
His free speech was never infringed. He can say what he wants and not be prosecuted for it. Whether or not he has a job isn’t covered by the First Amendment.
Despite being an “entertainment” show, satirical media is still media, and covered by the First. These shows still rely on that protection against lawsuits, and have been exhonerated with the same defence, Cobert in particular. If you could prove government interference in this case, I’d say there was a pretty good basis for a court case based on freedom of the press, which is the corollary of free speech.
The only thing I condemn the French inquiry on is that it should have already happened.
From my experience living in the US, the country is not a good reference point for any discussions around the nature of free speech.
Free speech polemics in the US largely have a demonstrative role with individuals parroting random copytext that they’ve heard before in an attempt to position themselves as being special and independent.
In a way, the whole thing is very entertaining.
There is that.
American democrats, though, irritated me more until I’ve started noticing Republicans. They have that “parties switched in 1960s” myth (only parties’ ideas on race switched, while the main ideology of the democratic party is not too different from “progressives” of 1890s, those guys who advocated for prophylactic lynchings ; and it’s the same about Republicans, whose “anti-racist” ideas were just as Christian fundamentalism based as their today’s projects), and also the “popular party” myth (while even in appearances being something to the top of which only people born with a silver spoon in mouth can get).
At the same time the “free speech” stuff over there seems to mostly be about “they in their totalitarian countries (or pockets of society dominated by the other party) are lied by their propaganda media, and we here are free and are told the truth”.
Not sure it’s entertaining, it looks depressing. But I haven’t lived in the US.
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Martin: Organized crime?
Cosmo: Hah. Don’t kid yourself. It’s not that organized.– Sneakers (1992)
Twitter is absolutely going to say “well, we’re definitely not an organised hate group. Sometimes people just hate stuff. We’re just a social media platform, helping people organise. Oh shit”
offtopic: I love that movie. It shows everything right despite everything being not serious.
US condemns…
Good. That means you’re doing the right thing. Keep doing it.
EU just rolled over on trade with US. If anyone hopes for some actual fight against US and US corporations coming for Europe they will be disappointment.
Vasals gonna vasal
EU just rolled over on trade with US.
Controlled Opposition. The plutocrats in Europe and the plutocrats in America have been working hand-in-glove for over a century. This is no different than the German government “rolling over” for IBM and Ford and Coca-Cola in the 1930s.
Just call it Twitter. He’s been trying to make “fetch” happen since the 90s. We get it, rich boy, you have a single-character .com domain. I’m still sending money over PayPal, because that’s what it’s fucking called.
“activist” even trying to discredit foreign federal bureaus by framing them as politically motivated lmao what a bunch of fucking crooks in the US admin.
Requesting information isn’t limiting free speech is it? Now if that algorithm shows it is indeed limiting or promoting people’s speech in a non-equal manner, that would be limiting people’s free speech would it not?
Dont try facts on the American government and 40% of its population. They dont work like that.
Idiots.
Not even regular idiots, hypocritical idiots.
Hasn’t Elon been found multiple times suppressing people who say things he doesn’t like?
About twice a day yeah
