Rich and powerful men can do whatever they please in this country and nobody cares about that
In my experience, the people who care the deepest are the ones who see themselves as victims (or targets) while the people who care the least / openly advocate for the thing are the ones who see themselves as the perpetrators. When you’re living in a Capitalist Dystopia, in which human trafficking is fully normalized and accepted as a Market Efficiency, the predators have the weight of government behind them.
But also, there’s a strong whiff of the anti-abortion types behind the “Save The Children” rhetoric. Like, you’re not saving the children, you’re saving their virginity which is rightfully owned by their parents. Pedophilia becomes a crime against the Fathers and Betrothed Husbands. This isn’t a crime against people, it’s a crime against a very valuable collectable, which the Libertarians and Theocrats consider a greater sin.
Yes, the right will allow their people to get away with a whole lot if it means they get to “win”. The left does not operate that way, even the fuckwit centrists don’t pull that shit every time.
And excuse me but the reason I want these people to face serious consequences is because they committed a serious crime and hurt people. Literally the fact that people were harmed so badly is the entire point!
Your comment would carry a lot more weight if it made any fucking sense. The only way it does is if you pretend as though the near entirety of the left doesn’t exist and as though that group does the same cult bullshit the right does, for which there really isn’t much evidence at all beyond a LOT of people being mad that the person they need to vote for is often a pretty pathetic alternative to the insane fascist that the conservatives keep propping up.
Christ, we can do two things at the same time. We can take care of the victims AND persecute the criminals. One is a MUCH bigger challenge than the other and so obviously we’re more focused on that. Fucking D’UH.
People love celebrity gossip and the victims are mostly nameless.
More than that, though: I think we all feel bad for those nameless victims, and all the numberless, nameless victims of not-famous abusers. I think the public is so frustrated at the apparent inability to hold anyone accountable, that they will latch on to any glimmer of potential accountability. I mean, To Catch A Predator ran for 3 seasons just trolling random dudes on the internet.
I just want to add that it’s probably best for the victims that they remain nameless. They don’t need to be known or recognized for their terrible experience or repeatedly and unexpectedly reminded of it, even by people who only mean well. And especially by perverts who don’t.
Not everyone, no. The victim’s pain and tribulation in years following is at the root of why so many people despise rapists, especially child rapists. It’s the absolute worst thing among the laundry list of crimes committed against minors every year, just short of murder. The incident(s) in question, and the fallout are a phenomenon widely recognized for the long-lasting damage done to them and their families, both present and future. Aside from the actual psychological impact of the crime, there’s the very well recognized classically-embedded realization that when someone too small/sexually immature is coerced into/forced to have sex, the act itself, and the pregnancy which follows can be virtual death sentences. Any grown woman who’s given birth to a 9-10+ lbs. baby/twins/triplets/quadruplets can tell you, it’s exhausting and excruciating if not downright hazardous in the wrong circumstances - those found in a pregnant Mother-to-be who’s shorter than 5’ and weighing less than 100 lbs., as nearly all minor girls are.
People do realize IMO, that’s the heart of the issue. That’s the source of the outrage beyond rich assholes taking advantage of, and injuring young girls.
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My frustration with the Epstein list is that nobody seems to give a damn that girls were raped, only which powerful men can held to “account”.
Rich and powerful men can do whatever they please in this country and nobody cares about that, or who they hurt, only the political outcome matters.
We care that they are held to account, because it would be the first time. We are tired of it.
People care about the girls. They also care about the corruption. Turns out you have to get through one to get to the other.
In my experience, the people who care the deepest are the ones who see themselves as victims (or targets) while the people who care the least / openly advocate for the thing are the ones who see themselves as the perpetrators. When you’re living in a Capitalist Dystopia, in which human trafficking is fully normalized and accepted as a Market Efficiency, the predators have the weight of government behind them.
But also, there’s a strong whiff of the anti-abortion types behind the “Save The Children” rhetoric. Like, you’re not saving the children, you’re saving their virginity which is rightfully owned by their parents. Pedophilia becomes a crime against the Fathers and Betrothed Husbands. This isn’t a crime against people, it’s a crime against a very valuable collectable, which the Libertarians and Theocrats consider a greater sin.
Thank you for pointing this out. There’s a bizarre American obsession with owning your child’s virginity
As horrific as it is, you’re completely correct. This is the dirty little open secret of patriarchy
Yes, the right will allow their people to get away with a whole lot if it means they get to “win”. The left does not operate that way, even the fuckwit centrists don’t pull that shit every time.
And excuse me but the reason I want these people to face serious consequences is because they committed a serious crime and hurt people. Literally the fact that people were harmed so badly is the entire point!
Your comment would carry a lot more weight if it made any fucking sense. The only way it does is if you pretend as though the near entirety of the left doesn’t exist and as though that group does the same cult bullshit the right does, for which there really isn’t much evidence at all beyond a LOT of people being mad that the person they need to vote for is often a pretty pathetic alternative to the insane fascist that the conservatives keep propping up.
Christ, we can do two things at the same time. We can take care of the victims AND persecute the criminals. One is a MUCH bigger challenge than the other and so obviously we’re more focused on that. Fucking D’UH.
People love celebrity gossip and the victims are mostly nameless.
More than that, though: I think we all feel bad for those nameless victims, and all the numberless, nameless victims of not-famous abusers. I think the public is so frustrated at the apparent inability to hold anyone accountable, that they will latch on to any glimmer of potential accountability. I mean, To Catch A Predator ran for 3 seasons just trolling random dudes on the internet.
I just want to add that it’s probably best for the victims that they remain nameless. They don’t need to be known or recognized for their terrible experience or repeatedly and unexpectedly reminded of it, even by people who only mean well. And especially by perverts who don’t.
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Not everyone, no. The victim’s pain and tribulation in years following is at the root of why so many people despise rapists, especially child rapists. It’s the absolute worst thing among the laundry list of crimes committed against minors every year, just short of murder. The incident(s) in question, and the fallout are a phenomenon widely recognized for the long-lasting damage done to them and their families, both present and future. Aside from the actual psychological impact of the crime, there’s the very well recognized classically-embedded realization that when someone too small/sexually immature is coerced into/forced to have sex, the act itself, and the pregnancy which follows can be virtual death sentences. Any grown woman who’s given birth to a 9-10+ lbs. baby/twins/triplets/quadruplets can tell you, it’s exhausting and excruciating if not downright hazardous in the wrong circumstances - those found in a pregnant Mother-to-be who’s shorter than 5’ and weighing less than 100 lbs., as nearly all minor girls are.
People do realize IMO, that’s the heart of the issue. That’s the source of the outrage beyond rich assholes taking advantage of, and injuring young girls.
*spoilered for possibly distressing content, sensitive readers’ discretion advised
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The books with his name are a red herring Jeffrey Epstein was not a dumb man, that entire house was undoubtedly wired for video through hidden cameras