Summary

Vladimir Putin ordered the conscription of 160,000 men—the largest draft since 2011—despite ongoing U.S.-mediated ceasefire talks with Ukraine.

The move raises doubts about Russia’s commitment to diplomacy, with Kyiv accusing Moscow of using talks to buy time for battlefield gains in Sumy, Kharkiv, and Zaporizhzhia.

Ukraine claims Russia intends to escalate the war, citing forced contracts for conscripts. Losses remain high on both sides, with Russia reportedly losing over 100,000 troops in 2024 alone.

    • Kyrgizion@lemmy.world
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      160K isn’t gonna cut that though. He’ll need several hundred K more if he realistically wants to actually have any gains at all.

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        I think Vladdy knows that the threat of war is much more of a nuisance to Europe than actually fighting and losing soldiers. This is just for threat posturing at borders.

        The real war is being fought with unmarked soldiers, unsuspicious russian cargo vessels, heavily propagandising one country (Hungary), while leaving others virtually alone (France) to saw division, etc.

        Nobody wins a war from the west. They know they have to go asymmetric, and they are, and the longer it takes Europe to realise that, the longer they will suffer. They also know wars are over 50% psychological.

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      Attacking Europe with conscripts and depleted hardware storage? I can’t see how that could fail.

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        They’re Russian, stop trying to bring reason into it.

        I’m sure they genuinely think that now the US will attack Europe and they can invade on 2 fronts.

        Russians are just insane morons.

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          They’re Russian, stop trying to bring reason into it.

          Oh, absolutely. However, insanity can help only that much with invasion.

          I’m sure they genuinely think that now the US will attack Europe and they can invade on 2 fronts.

          Red, white and bluelandia wants a word with you. Do you really think it’s impossible? At this point I’m not that sure anymore.

          Russians are just insane morons.

          I’d disagree to some extent. Call Putin what you want (and rightly so), but he is not a moron (as opposite to the Orange one). The common people is that or just don’t have a choice.

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            Putin was brilliant, his moves until 2008 were a perfection of geopolitical chess.

            After that he completely lost the plot, his terror at the rise of China completely broke his mind, he felt he had to show strength less Russia become a vassal state and resource depot for the CPC.

            And he wasn’t wrong, but his response was stupid, and relied on Europe continuing to follow Merkel’s ‘nice doggy’ policies.

            Now he thinks he can act anyway, because his sponsored right-wing groups will cause enough dissent that nobody will stop him from taking the baltics.

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    smart guy, knows now usa will not help, unless you have rare minerals so countries without minerals are in danger. And regarding peace I do not think he is interested in peace, he wants young men dying so he can also accept his own inevitable death eventually.

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    HitlerPig is watching and learning. When he launches his wars, they will definitely be accompanied by a draft.

    I will state this unequivocally: I will NEVER allow my son to be drafted into a MAGA War of Economic Oppprtunity. And if they somehow grab him and press him into military slavery, I will have nothing left to lose, and I will become a very dangerous individual to my son’s slavemasters. And I won’t be alone.

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    It doesn’t say what region the draftees will be coming from.

    There’s a fair chance they won’t be coming from Moscow.

    Like, 100%.

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      Yeah, but how many 18-40 year old men are still in rural Russia that haven’t already been fed to the meat grinder or were lucky enough to get out of the country first?

      Sooner or later these conscriptions are going to hit bigger cities, although they’ll likely be used to backfill non-combat positions while others are sent to Ukraine. But even that can go on for only so long…

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      And also RIP Ukrainian demographics. It’s great to see Russia hurting, and they deserve their scars, but it’s gonna take a very long time for Ukraine to recover too. They’ll have EU support, but EU’s economy probably isn’t gonna be in great shape either. And you can’t buy babies.

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        Ukraine will likely get assistance from more than just EU countries. And once things are safe again I wouldn’t be surprised to see Ukrainians around the world returning home to help rebuild etc. You can’t say the same of Russia I don’t think.

        Ukraine had a very robust economy before the war, exporting everything from food to military hardware. Given what they have learned about UAV’s, etc. in the past 3 years they likely stand to regain a strong military industry once again after this is all settled. They’re already manufacturing some of their own military gear for the war, and once the war is over it should be fairly easy for them to turn all that into an export industry.

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    100k loss is a crazy amount of death… Sadly, looking at population numbers, Russia is about 143 million people, so it shouldn’t be as hard as I thought it would be for them to find more people to send to slaughter.

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      Take a look at their demographics, and add the millions who have fled or died or been so maimed they can’t work and well you’ll see why there is a labour shortage already just to have ordinary things up and running. Now imagine having enough tax revenue to take care for the elderly …