• JaggedRobotPubes@lemmy.world
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    Not if they aren’t acting on it, geez.

    If they woke up one day, realized to their horror they wanted to do some fucked up shit, and then just never did, that’s crappy for them to have to deal with, and they’re a champion for not making it anybody else’s problem.

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      Plus a lot of child molesters aren’t even attracted to children, just the power and control it gives them.

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        I think that it’s also the fact that children, due to being inexperienced and lacking knowledge and strength to defend themselves, which makes them easy targets.

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          I did NOT say or imply that it makes anything better.

          In fact, expanding the pool of potential abusers to those that just want power over others makes it worse.

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          It doesn’t make acting on it in that way any better, because it’s the same thing. Though assuming no action occurs, it’s probably an easier chestnut for a psychiatrist to crack or at least direct to healthier channels.

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      I always worry about this. Ive got some specific non-vanilla stuff that I didnt ask for and cant change. Lucky for me its nothing illegal or harmful, just non-standard.

      It could just as easily have been the bad.

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    Idk man. People who are obsessed about “killing pedophiles” and wears a “shoot your local pedophile” t-shirt are, more often than not, extrememly right-wing anti-LGBT neo-nazis and think leftists and drag queens are, somehow, “pedophiles”.

    Pizzagate all over again.

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    Depends. Are we talking paedophile in the sense of Epstein or in the sense of LGBTQ person?

    Because right-wingers tend to call people who are not paedophiles paedophiles (very often just LGBTQ people), while protecting actual paedophiles like the republicans who are fighting to keep child marriage legal in the USA.

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      Yeah, this kind of vague, “kill your local pedophile :)” sentiment is often just an anti-LGBT dogwhistle and makes me uneasy.

      If someone is going to post shit like this, and not actively tie it to the very obvious class dynamics of wealthy human traffickers, conservative Christians who promote child marriage, and politicians who protect them (without also being Anti-Semitic), then I just kind of assume it’s a thinly veiled call for violence against queer people

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      What if we didn’t need the nental gymnastic, they are roping democracy with memetic manipulation and demographic hacking. 1700s democracy didn’t understand the power of computers, we badly need to bad the exploits and pulp the exploiters.

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    This is a very obvious trick from the right.

    “Kill all pedophiles!”

    Yeah most people will say pedophiles are really bad and nobody wants to defend them, so they’ll either agree or let it slide. However, they’re not anticipating the next part

    “All trans people are pedophiles!”

    “All gay people are pedophiles!”

    “All immigrants are pedophiles!”

    Once you define a group of people as being subhuman and unworthy of human rights, then there is a strong motivation to expand the definition of that group to include more people that a lot of people don’t like and won’t stick their neck out to support for fear of getting labeled as part of that group and oppressed like them. The circle then just keeps growing as the machine needs more people in the outgroup to oppose. If there is broad consensus that pedophiles (or people who commit any type of crime) are a danger so foul that the people who might commit said crime should be summarily executed to subjected to torture, then oppressed minority groups will just be identified with said crime. Think about how panic about urban theft and murder was used to advance policies that harm racial minorities in the late 20th century, and how panic about “bolshevism” was a major driving force of the Holocaust. Nothing good comes from this path.

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    Depends.

    Pedophilia is likely an inherent sexual attraction, much like being straight, or LGBTQ+. It appears that the sexual attraction is not something that the person has control over. There’s no good evidence that it can be changed. Some pedophiles are also sexually attracted to age-appropriate partners, some appear to be exclusively attracted to children. Moreover, it appears to split into nepophilia (infants, toddlers), pedophilia (pre-pubescent children older than toddlers), and ephebophilia (pubescent children and post-pubescent children younger than the legal age of consent).

    Epstein appears to have been attracted to post-pubescent girls younger below the age of consent, but he also seems to have had sexual relationships with adult women. E.g., he wasn’t exclusively a pedophile.

    Child molestation is a completely different matter. Child molesters can be pedophiles, but they can also be opportunistic sexual predators. A significant amount of child molestation is also incest, e.g., a parent or close relative (almost always male) using a child for sexual gratification because they can (proximity, opportunity), rather than preferring children. Either way, child molesters that sexually abuse children are very high risk offenders; they are often very, very likely to commit the same crime repeatedly.

    So, I’d draw the line a line between someone that’s sexually attracted to minors, and someone that acts. The child molester? Yeah, fuck 'em with a chainsaw. Pedophiles that haven’t yet done anything (including grooming!)? No.

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    Well, I understand your emotions but there are more civilized ways to deal with this problem.

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      The abuser has to pay lifelong alimony to the abused. If the accusation turns out to be false, however, the “abused” has to pay.

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          Well… while an objective law is important… Don’t get me wrong - if anyone would do anything to my girl I’d personally rip their reproductive organs out and force feed that to them

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            This is understandable, probably I could do the same if my kids were harmed, however I hold the position that (objectively speaking) the law should deal with this kind of crime.

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    When you realise there’s a list that names every sex offender in the USA and they can’t legally bear arms. :)

    Edit: People chill, I am sarcastic. Violence breeds violence, everyone knows that. If you treat criminals like they do in the USA, you can kiss the idea of rehabilitation goodbye. Not only that, but it also is just purile.

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      Socially acceptable, free and unlimited violence, this is the main reason behind the fascination for pedos. Anyone who balks at the idea of this violence is made complicit and an enabler. Eventually this congeals into a powerful hate mob, a mod of selfrighteous violence and justice, priming itself for violence until one of its member finally does it, shows up at a pizzeria and shoots up the place. They were going to be an hero, their life was finally going to make sense. They would finally have the power to make things right with the world but as we all know, the billionaire elite learned from the takedown of the church in the 80s and they had already filled the basement with concrete before he got there. Who even is the enemy anymore? It’s billionaires! Shoot down their planes with open source anti air missiles!!

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      We have courts instead of mob justice in civilized societies for good reasons. One of those reasons is that mobs rarely follow due process. Once you create a class of people it is okay to enact mob violence against, all you need to do is start rumors to take out the anyone you don’t like. People of particular political persuasions. People of particular sexualities. People of particular races. “Oh Jim? Yeah, I heard he’s a pedo - lets run him out of town! (plus then he wont be able to open that donut shop that would have competed with mine…)”