• smol_beans@lemmy.world
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    21 days ago

    OP admits that they would cast a vote to put trans people in camps if the situation was right. This meme is ridiculous coming from a person like that.

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      21 days ago

      Yeah, OP would enthusiastically vote for Mussolini if the other option was Hitler. They fundamentally do not have a conscience and lack any moral center. There is no red line that would cause them to say, “that’s it. Enough if enough. I won’t vote for you no matter what the alternative is.”

      They’re a sociopathic utilitarian (or at least they larp as one.) Individual human beings have no inherent worth; all that matters is the cold hard greatest good for the greatest number. In the past, they quite possibly would have actually been convinced to vote for Hitler, as long as Hitler could convince them that the evil the Nazis intended was for the greater good. The Nazis justified all their most evil shit on utilitarian grounds. The road to Hell is paved with utilitarianism.

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      “Pick the less bad option, millions of lives depend on it.”

      “OH, so if the LESS BAD option was CONSIDERABLY WORSE than it was in 2024, you’d still pick it???”

      Literally yes, but that’s not contradictory to the argument of the meme - ie that THE ACTUAL PRACTICAL LIVES OF HUMAN FUCKING BEINGS IN MARGINALIZED GROUPS DEPEND ON FASCISM BEING DEFEATED, AND YOUR ONLINE STREET CRED AND STRANGE NOTION OF MAINTAINING A POLITICALLY PURE SOUL MEANS JACK SHIT IN COMPARISON

      We fought to get to a position where trans people aren’t on the chopping block every fucking election and that gruesome outcome doesn’t have to occur unlike, say, in 18 fucking 60, and you want to send them back to it because it’ll make you feel good when you cast your ballot?

      Fuck off with that shit.

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        21 days ago

        PugJesus, voting in the 1932 German election:

        “Yes, it is a shame what we have to do to what what Hitler wants to do to the German Jews. But it’s simply the greatest good for the greatest number. Sacrifices must be made. Yes, we’ll sacrifice the Jews, but in turn we’ll have greater social cohesion and the rest of German society will advance and prosper. We’ll be wealthier and happier without the Jews dragging us down. I’m sorry, it’s a tragedy, but it simply must be done. The practical lives of real human beings demand that we enact fascism. Your political purity means jack shit in comparison, we simply have to do what is in the best interest of the German people.”

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          21 days ago

          Me: “Pick the less bad option against the fucking fascists.”

          You: “Oh, he must be saying vote for the fascists!”

          Good job. Typical of your posting throughout this thread.

          Tell me more about how you’d support Hitler over the ‘imperfect’ SPD.