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    The absolute worst thing we can do is settle for a neoliberal.

    Because if we do, and they win the general, they get to install cro ies in the DNC after the election.

    We need AOC regardless of if she thinks she’s ready, sometimes you just gotta jump out of that plane.

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          They once financed a Republican in order to beat a Democratic nominee because they were progressive. Jist look at the New York Mayor race if you need an example of how the DNC would treat AOC.

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            The party fights progressives and not conservatives because the party is conservative, and so are the republicans.

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            It’s an ignorant statement, because it ignores how much has changed since the January DNC chair…

            They didn’t know about that.

            The comment is ignorant.

            Next time ask if you don’t understand something, most of the time I’d have blocked you first instead of replying.

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              It’s an ignorant statement, because it ignores how much has changed since the January DNC chair…

              Yeah, since they got their brand new chair who has instantly fixed everything just as long as you don’t actually look at what the party is doing, they’ve ousted David Hogg and tried to force through cuomo in a primary.

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        Sanders and Noam Fucking Chomsky himself started spouting neo-liberalism bullshit, and AOC just voted against stripping funding to Israel from 2026 “defense” act.

        They ain’t the heros you’re looking for.

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      I think it’s hilarious when people like Jennings believe there will be another general election in which they’re allowed to vote. Lemmy is full of these dummies. Like, you had your chance and you failed to act because you fell for red herrings.

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        Telling people they won’t be able to vote again helps no one but the far right trying to normalize the idea of a Trump dictatorship.

        Meanwhile Republicans are preparing for the midterms.

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    Gavin Newsom is the epitome of the liberal elite who talk the talk but don’t walk the walk. He criminalizes homelessness instead of working to address its systemic causes and is deep in the pockets of corporate and wealthy donors. His whole appeal is just posturing against Trump. It boggles my mind that my mom likes the guy.

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      Millions of beds in homeless shelters have been built with his programs, yes, he does the bullshit harm tactics, but he’s spent way more money on real solutions than any other CA governor. One of the attack points Republicans have come up with is attacking him on the ‘‘rise in homelessness by millions’’ what they don’t say is that this stat is coming from the millions of homeless people who are now being counted as they have shelters to sleep in. They are calling it a rise because the number isn’t a guess anymore because they have shelter. Don’t fall for the bullshit. We have to not punish the politics that are actually spending money where he want it.

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    If people keep expecting Dem candidates to be 100% pure in their viewpoints then we will be stuck with MAGA again and again.

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      “Vote blue no matter who” got us Donald Trump, and a Democratic Party that barely makes a shadow effort to oppose him. I for one am finished with that.

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        I’m not done with it. Mamdani won the primary in New York. People like Hakeem Jeffries need to pull their damn britches up and vote blue no matter who, amirite?

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        He’s miles above the average Democrat if you really look into all the details, the Republicans are masters of personal attacks and talking points that poison the discussion vs. Address any part of reality. Be careful not to fall for it. Granted like Obama he’s a careful centrist with no real desire to move the needle one direction or the other and that’s been the problem this whole time it’s establishment Dems want to play both sides and it stopped working after Trump’s cult. So. He’s not the answer to the problems Harris had, he’s likely to put his foot in the same trap and he’s by no means a liberal or populist, but he his a very strong debtor and a successful Gov if you look into it factually.

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        I as well, but would you vote for a transphobic Dem, a MAGA Republican, or just not vote?

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          Those are the only options? We can’t have non transphobic people in primaries? We can’t hold them to a hire standard? If we are at the point where these are our only options, we are already cooked.

          Hold them to a higher standard and they will be forced to it. Giving in and staying well, I’d rather vote for a transphobe than a MAGA allows them to stay transphobic.

          This is the whole problem, we’ve been convinced we need to vote for harm reduction and only harm reduction, and even the Democrats are sliding further right.

          Do better. Don’t accept a shit sandwich and a shit sandwich with mayonnaise.

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            In the November elections those are often the only choices. You can vote Dem or vote MAGA or not vote, the last two options get us MAGA.

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              In the November elections those are often the only choices.

              Then don’t act surprised when people don’t return betrayal with devotion.

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          Those aren’t the choices right now. Gavin shouldn’t even make it that far. We desperately need new blood, someone who captures the anger at the heart of the american left-of-center, not another establishment democrat who will pretend it isn’t there.

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      What a farce. People don’t want diet Republican candidates which is why the Republicans control every branch of government. The DNC would rather hand over control than allow a progressive to hold office.

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      Now’s the fucking time to criticize Dem candidates, before and then during the Dem primaries. Our options going forward aren’t “Newsom or a fucking Republican” yet, so don’t fucking resign yourself - and all of us by extension - to fucking Newsom.

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        This exactly. Choose your preferred candidate during the primaries. Then hopefully have a tolerable choice on the November ballot.

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      centrists, always giving away every negotiation before it even starts. I imagine back on the schoolyard you’d chase bullies down and demand they took your milk money.

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      Newsom is a neo-feudalist asshat who tried to lick fascist boots earlier this very year. If a corprocrat like him is chosen, Dems are cooked because voters have consistently not turned out for them recently. If such a flakey and uninspiring candidate is chosen, MAGA has a better chance due to base suppression. It doesn’t matter that you think voters should act differently, because what is =/= what “ought” to be.

      I’m tired of people expecting voters to shape themselves to the party instead of the other way around. Trump didn’t dominate other Republicans by telling people to “be better,” but by agreeing to satiate their strongest emotions. People aren’t in the mood to hear “it can’t be done yet, be patient,” when everyone’s economic situation has gotten worse with every passing year regardless of who is in charge. Democrats have nothing but false promises, which is why they lost against the American Hitler.

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      It shines a spotlight on the fact that Newsome has suddenly pivoted on this transgender issue. (basically as a precursor to running for president) And people should know that this shithead has no actual integrity and will do or say whatever it takes to get the conservatives to like him more for the general election (he’s pretty confident that Dems will choose him regardless of his policies apparently.) So, if he’s altering his policy on transgender youth, it almost certainly means that he’s gonna attempt the Democrats continually failing strategy of appealing to conservatives.

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    Reading these comments you would think he hates trans people. Instead, he said:

    “I think it’s an issue of fairness. I completely agree with you on that. It is an issue of fairness, it’s deeply unfair… I revere sports. So, the issue of fairness is completely legit," he said.

    On the topic girls playing sports against genetic males.

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      On the topic girls playing sports against genetic males.

      Thank you for the republican/centrist democrat talking point.

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      How is it any less fair than high school kids playing against someone who’s being scouted for professional sports? Do you think it was more fair for high school boys to play against LeBron James before he was drafted into the NBA? The entire argument is bullshit and framed just so to give bigots cover for their bigotry.

      If you want fairness in high-school sports, force everyone be ranked based on their skill level not their gender because that’s what wins games not a dick and balls.

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      So he doesn’t hate trans people, he just wants to inspect every child athlete’s genitals to make sure they’re in the right locker room. Whew, that’s a relief.