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    Funny thing is that I have noticed for some folks deep in the LLM chat, conversationally they are a lot more obnoxiously verbose than they used to be.

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        Yeah! I was already concerned that people’s eyes would glaze over and they’d skim the latter 3/4 of my message and miss some important connected dots.

        Now we’ve all been trained to detect and reject AI slop for a couple years, so the whole “here’s the whole situation described in a single message” strategy is right out the window.

        I even like using em dashes sometimes. :/

        At least I don’t use emojis in place of bullet points. The more you know. ✨

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            AI comes off as us. It was 100% trained on the small subset of internet users that express complex thoughts and type in complete sentences.

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        Given how many wordy reddit comments I made over a decade – replete with em dashes – I can’t help but see myself in these little LLM guys. Brings a tear to my eye

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      LLMs are really stupid and have to have their hand held at every step. Lots of instructions included.

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    I recently learned the difference between “Justification” and " Rationalization." Justification is laying out the legit reasons for doing something, while Rationalization is explaining why it was okay. Justification is considered positive, while Rationalization is generally negative. Justification is reasons, and usually comes before, while Rationalization is excuses, and usually comes after.

    In the case of this cartoon, Rationalization would have been a better word than Justification.

    Just sayin’.

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      It’s a justification because he talks in AI word soup in real life. That’s the punchline in the comic. His defensive justification is that he sounds like an AI in his email because he just happens to sound like an AI all the time. There’s no rationalization required if he didn’t use AI to write emails and the justification for him sounding like AI in his emails is that actually sounds like AI all the time.

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      I’d always used justification as convincing someone else that your action is right, while rationalization is convincing yourself. For honest intent I usually use explanation

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      Yeah its like scientific testing results …what is the validity and what is the reliability.

      You can get really reliable results on a test that is invalid.

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    I can’t help but feel that one of my real takeaways from Corporate America is that people don’t read good.

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    I’m not going to lie. In a professional scenario having LLM feed me responses would be really beneficial, it could even do some irrelevant small talk for me. That thing is significantly better than i am in it and most of this type of talk already consists of predetermined phrases.

    Feel free to point out flaws in it.

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      You’ll never develop your own skills in that type of communication, it’s incredibly obvious when someone uses LLM output in that manner, and many people consider it incredibly rude to use it that way.

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        Fair, yeah i agree it would hamper communication skills development, but even in a professional scenario? Where most of the communication already consists of fixed responses. Technically not even an LLM would be needed for it, just automated scripts and keywords, just a simple bot would already be enough.

        Or does even this almost automated communication have some underlying layers im missing?

        Though yeah while i might find basic day to day small talk kinda pointless, it does serve a purpose and using an LLM for it might be already pushing it.

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          Ive worked in a lot of “professional scenarios” and I can’t think of very many where a “fixed response” would be OK for anything internal comma. Maybe very formal responses to a boilerplate ticket or something.

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      As the recepient of those responses, they are unwelcome. If I wanted an LLM response, I would ask the LLM myself.

      If you want to have your interactions more concise, then you can steer things that way. Don’t meet unwelcome verbosity with more unwelcome verbosity.

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    The best part is that they no longer used AI in their response. Nowhere does that character sequence appear in their response!

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      If it makes you feel any better, the real way to get ahead in the job market is the same as it’s ever been: know the right people.

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      Yep but if you use too much AI theyll reject you. My careers advisor also said AI scanners aren’t programmed to recognise neurodiversity in applications which puts diverse people at a disadvantage

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    i think that basically writing texts in bullet-point style is just better for readability. nobody likes long walls-of-text.

    the thing is just that until now, you couldn’t convince people. suddenly people see AI output lots of long but still easily-readable texts in bullet-point style. people realize how convenient that is and start copying it.