I was on a international flight recently that spanned about 11 hours in the day and the person in front kept putting thier chair back.
Now I know people want to relax but i’m using the screen in the chair and i’m hoping the inflight meal will at least be passable enough to digest.
So on a long haul flight that happens in the day would you put your chair back?
Would you keep trying to put it back every hour (i havent moved chairs). even though you have been asked not to?
- now by the cabin crew btw
PSA for anyone using a laptop during flights, the tray tables do not change angle or height when the person in front of you puts their seat all the way back. I almost had someone break my laptop screen a few years ago because the top of my screen got caught under the exposed edges where my tray table would fold up into, as the seat back came angling down towards my tray table. I was quick enough to be able to pull my laptop towards me and remove the screen before the full force was applied to the screen housing.
Flights are for sleeping, friend. I personally don’t see any benefit from reclining my seat so I don’t, but you should understand: reclined IS the default.
I never put my seat back. I think they should take that feature out of airplane seats entirely.
Agreed, each person should have their own space that no other passenger can alter. If you want to recline it should be within your own space. For example the seat butt should slide forward, or you should get an angled pillow to put behind your back. Or alternatively all seats should be reclined 100% of the time and you should get an up-slanted pillow for your back so you can sit upright.
However it’s done, everyone should have the exact same amount of space that no one else can alter
all seats should be reclined 100% of the time and you should get an up-slanted pillow for your back so you can sit upright.
Replace ‘extra pillow’ with ‘chair back that can be raised’ and guess what, you’ve got the current situation.
Except that would alter the space of the person behind you
i dont mind it for night flights - the entire plane goes back so you dont notice the difference
More and more airlines actually are, especially on shorter flights. And the price still is going up!
If I want to recline I’m reclining. My comfort shouldn’t be impeded because it might inconvenience the person in back of me.
With the same attitude the person behind you can rightfully kick off and demand you sit back up, because why should THEIR comfort be impeded by your inconvenience of not being able to lay back?
The space that my seat back occupies is not their space, that is mine.
No, it’s not. Your space ends at the backrest of your seat.
And as far as it reclines
In that case your ass is then my space, as far as my foot occupies it.
Ok, Boomer.
No boomer just someone that’s gonna use the features they paid for. If you don’t like the possibility of someone reclining buy a cabin seat with better seat pitch
Just because you were born later than the rest of them, doesn’t mean you don’t belong in the “I got mine, fuck everyone else” group.
I do wonder if they’re trolling, because their attitude could apply equally to the person behind them on a flight.
“My comfort shouldn’t be impeded because it might inconvenience the person in front of me.”
I have no reason to believe they aren’t being honest about their selfishness.
That’s not selfishness. I paid to be in the same cabin you are. You refusing to utilize what you’ve paid for is not my problem.
not my problem.
I rest my case.
Maybe you should fork out for a better seat so your entitlement doesn’t affect others.
I’m not the one with the problem with my seat back.
People will read this name and then the content of the comment and still take it seriously and that’s why we as a species are doomed to fail
Is the name supposed to mean something to most people?
Usually godless communists would not be pro free market capitalism
Today I learned that reclining seats on an aircraft is pro free market capitalism.
Nope but blaming people for being dissatisfied with their material conditions because they had the option to buy something else is
Nope.
We live in a society, and as far as I’m concerned, stealing the person behind you’s very limited leg room is selfish.
Signed,
A tall person who WILL kick your seat when my knees are in agony.
I’m 6’3” or 1.9m tall. I fly monthly for work. Putting the seat back has little effect on leg room because the pivot point is just below your knee level. It steals a bit of room going straight forward from your head/shoulders but you can reclaim this lost 2” by also reclining your seat.
If you’re kicking seats rather than reclining your own to get back to the same exact space as non-reclined just at a slightly more comfortable angle, you’re the asshole.
You sure about your height? I’m 6’3” and find it very painful in my knees when the person in front of me reclines, since the pivot point is too far below knee level. If I were to recline my seat, it doesn’t change that since reclining only affects your back.
There are many aircraft where if the person in front of me reclines, I am looking down on their head and find it easier to watch their screen than mine
I think we must be flying very different planes because in all the airlines ive ever flown the seat only “reclines” like 2 inches.
2” in the standard, sometimes you can get 3” recline in economy+ seats.
Agreed. Same height and same issue. With my lower back pressed back into the seat, I can press my knees into the seat in front of me. Reclining my chair doesn’t allow my lower back to move any further back so it doesn’t increase leg room whatsoever.
My knees are several inches above the seats pivot point so someone reclining in front of me is taking a considerable amount of my leg room.
I think that other guy must have a long torso and short legs.
Yeah, 6’3” and 1/2” with bare feet, standing up straight.
Their seat back has no impact on your leg room
Found the hobbit
If the cabin crew tells you not to put your seat back, then don’t put your seat back
You don’t want to be kicked out mid-flight
The crew didn’t ask him not to, OP asked him not to
I’m actually guilty of skipping to the end of the post, but it looks like maybe you didn’t make it that far.
The point still stands though: if one does not want to be ejected from the plane, one ought to listen to the directions of the cabin crew.
I assume his “now” is a typo for “not”. But obviously that’s just an assumption
I put the seat back every single time I am on a flight. I have back issues and I get back pain if I sit upright like that for too long. If the flight attendants are asking to not put a seat back because the person behind me, then I’m going to ask for a new seat because sitting upright for 11 hours is absolute agony.
Sorry to the tall folks and whatnot, but I’m not flying somewhere just to be stuck in bed for 2 days unable to move because of back pain.
I’m 6’4" (193cm). The seat in front of me reclining means my knees are pressed into the seat back, and that’s uncomfortable for both of us. I don’t want to do that to anyone else so I never put my seat back.
Same. If the person in front of me puts their seat back, I’m going to ensure that it doesn’t bring them any extra comfort. I’m not typically a confrontational person but airport security and being treated like cattle usually puts me on edge.
Complaining about someone using a seat as designed feels entitled to me. Sorry. I’ve always so confused how some people consider it encroaching. Sure it’s all shared space, but that means you are sharing it with others. Reclining inherently uses that chairs fair space.
The problem is not the reclining seats, it’s that we are now packed like cattle.
There is no etiquette. That’s a flawed argument.
The seats are designed the way they are by the airlines. They allow the minimum amount of space for the maximum amount of money.
The airlines could make all seats non-reclining with very little effort. But they would lose money because non-reclining seats would be a dealbreaker to a small but not insignificant number of customers…me for one.
The airlines could also make seats more comfortable and reclinable by allowing more space for each seat. But they would lose money because they would sell less seats.
The seats recline the small amount they do because of the natural equilibrium that the market allows between comfort and profit. End of story.
You peasants arguing about which other peasant is a terrible person are blaming the wrong people.
What are you, insane? It’s their seat, doesn’t affect your tray table at all, and reclines, at most 15°. Grow up…
It does affect the tray table
They paid for a seat, they can use it as they wish within its designed and permitted capabilities. You don’t know what time zone they’ve come from or where they’re going, when they sleep is their business. You don’t know what back/ physical issues they may have. If you don’t want to sit behind a reclining seat that upsets your delicate sensibilities don’t buy a ticket that sits you behind a reclining seat that upsets your delicate sensibilities. Who the hell do you think you are to dictate what others should do because you don’t like your own life choices.
Doesn’t bother me if they recline - on an Airbus the seat base pivots so you get more knee room.
Related things that do annoy me - people dropping the seat back with a lot of force (why not recline gently so the person behind can adjust their stuff?), and people kicking the back of my seat.
A 12 hour flight is often going to involve a change in timezone, so I usually get some sleep, and for that I want my seat reclined … plus keeping in one position for that amount of time is uncomfortable for my joints and backside.
I’ve never even tried to learn how to put the seats back, because it just seems rude to me. I wouldn’t want the person in front of me doing that, so I don’t do it to anyone else.
