This is driving me insane. Please help!

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    Use the AltGr key!

    AltGr is a key on ISO keyboard, it means Alternative Graphic, and when you hold it and press either [ or { you should get the correct glyph.

    Note that you won’t see it at first, it waits for the next character and will modify it to include the change, or insert it in front of the next character if the character does not use modifiers.

    You can press space after triggering the glyph to just print it separately.

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      Useless info: The backtick (`), forward tick (´), and apostrophe (') are distinct characters.

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        T́h́é fóŕẃáŕd́ t́íćḱ íś áćt́úáĺĺý ćáĺĺéd́ áćút́é àǹd̀ t̀h̀è b̀àc̀k̀t̀ìc̀k̀ ìs̀ à g̀r̀àv̀è

        You can have some fun with these terms.

        Also, there are Czech and Slovak oddities with carons where it looks very much like a 9-shaped curly apostrophe (’) on some letters. All the following nouns are common, spelled correctly and the only accent they contain is one caron (ˇ) each. Standard and monospace font are provided for comparison (some monospace fonts, especially pixel ones, actually squish the d-caron to avoid overflow)

        1 2 3 4
        ľudia loď lodě mať
        people ship ships mother
        1 2 3 4
        ĽUDIA LOĎ LODĚ MAŤ
        PEOPLE SHIP SHIPS MOTHER
        ľudia   loď   lodě   mať
        people  ship  ships  mother
        
        ĽUDIA   LOĎ   LODĚ   MAŤ
        PEOPLE  SHIP  SHIPS  MOTHER
        

        Maybe that’s why Czech and Slovak never use upper-9 quotes, the primary („“) and secondary (‚‘) quote marks are lower-9 and upper-6.

      • stoy@lemmy.zip
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        I don’t have the energy to set one up, or to moderate one, but there should be a community called “GeneralInterestClub” or similar, where interesting but not really super useful info like this would be reposted.

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      YSK: If you set keyboard layouts to thier versiones suffixed with “no dead keys” they don’t do that. Instead the character ist rendered immediately.

    • daggermoon@piefed.worldOP
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      Thank you! I will give it a try. Hitting the key than spacebar works in Firefox and Signal but not much else.

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    That’s a compressed layout so print screen is missing.

    And alt gr + [key] generally gives you the third symbol to the right on the key, behaves like a second shift for the number row, etc

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    That’s a weird layout, it doesn’t seem a proper Spanish (Spain) layout.

    The apostrophe is the button right to the 0, but on the image it seems that is shift+?

    The symbols on 1 are correct, but on 2 and 3 seems swapped, like for @ and # is shift+2/3 but in Spain it is AltGr+2/3

    EDIT

    Definitely OP’s image keyboard is not from Europe, it lacks the € symbol printed on the E.

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
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    You hold the Function (FN) button or the AltGR button and then the labeled buttons you want.

    If the pictured keyboard is the one you’re using: It looks like it doesn’t have a Print Screen button. It’s not a full size keyboard.

  • Chris@feddit.uk
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    That’s a mechanical keyboard, so you should be able to map the missing keys to wherever you like.

    Failing that, PrtScr is probably on Fn+P, and apostrophes will be Alt Gr+{, Alt Gr+[ or Shift+?. The first two look like they may be accent dead keys, so try Shift+? first, or follow them with a space.

    • stoy@lemmy.zip
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      No need to mess about with modifying the layout, just use the AltGr key as I wrote about earlier.

    • daggermoon@piefed.worldOP
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      I’m using Linux. I know I can remap it but surely there has to be a more proper way. I would think, anyway.

      • floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        You can just set the layout to US (or whatever you’re accustomed to) and go by memory. 3 keys are different between ISO and ANSI, most characters are where your fingers expect them to be

        • daggermoon@piefed.worldOP
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          I know I could do that but that would defeat the purpose of using a Spanish keyboard. I want to type Spanish characters without switching layouts.

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            Up to you, but personally I’m a European that uses the US layout most of the time as it’s especially nice in a terminal, and have a quick switch hotkey (win-space) to switch over when I need accented characters

            • daggermoon@piefed.worldOP
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              I use the terminal a lot and i’m still getting used to the dash key being at the bottom. It’s an adjustment.

  • Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip
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    Alternative to print screen is to use whatever screen shot tool is built into your OS (Screenshot on Mac & most sane Linux distros, Snipping Tool on Windows)