After the national record was already broken, it now also applies at the global level. A different country previously held the record.
  • PolarPirate@lemmy.zipEnglish
    7·
    3 days ago

    Just wanna state that this has been going on since before US involvement. Two dictatirs fighting each other…

    • Zink@programming.devEnglish
      3·
      3 days ago

      I say we shouldn’t take any platforms “seriously.”

      This platform is small and open and hosted by volunteer individuals. That is what makes it nice for most of us, but it also means there will always be a variety in who you interact with and it will never be a consistent homogenous branded product.

      The huge corporate platforms kind of flip that - you get a massive user base and a very intentionally designed user experience, but everything else about it is a nightmare.

    • super_user_do@feddit.itEnglish
      4·
      3 days ago

      I know a few Iranian people who are studying in my university in Italy and they are all Zionist… I understand that living in a dictatorship is bad but bro you can’t justify a genocide just because you want to dress up more revealing holy shit bro

      • MrMakabar@slrpnk.netEnglish
        2·
        3 days ago

        A good chunk of the Iranian diaspora are the old supporters of the monarchy. Under the Shah Iran and Israel were allies. Also a lot of Iranians are strongly racist against Arabs. The fact that a lot of Arabs killed family members, when Iraq invaded them in 1980 and an eight year long bloody war followed, certainly does not help.

        Not saying Israels genocide is a good thing, but the Iranian diaspora is probably a bad gauge to judge Iran by.

      • GuyIncognito@lemmy.caEnglish
        1·
        3 days ago

        basically if someone flees a revolution and goes to live in a western country, they’re the worst scum in the world. they seethe with hatred for their former countrymen and they want nothing more than to be placed in power by a US invasion, to put their boots back on the necks of the peasants once again. Not only should you not listen to them, you should be actively hostile to them. If the war causes a global famine (via fertilizer shortages) and it comes to it, you should eat them.

  • The D Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
    7·
    3 days ago

    ITT: people posting on the internet about something they found out about from the internet saying that an authoritarian regime shutting down the internet because the people under that regime were using it to coordinate resistance efforts is not so bad

    sorry, i’d take y’all a lot more seriously if you were having that conversation over ham radio

    • FlexibleToast@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      3 days ago

      For future reference, any time you want to coordinate some sort of resistance or even protest, the leadership should get on Meshtastic, MeshCore, or some other equivalent. Encrypted mesh communication over radios. The radios are fairly inexpensive starting at around $40.

        • FlexibleToast@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          2 days ago

          And the fact that it’s a mesh so theoretically it should be easy to avoid a single point of failure. If one person with one gets arrested or otherwise silenced, the network stays up. Probably need a way to rotate keys though.

  • sepi@piefed.socialEnglish
    85·
    4 days ago

    Well, they’re kinda busy right now getting bombed so I don’t think it’s a priority now.

    Like, sure, at first the blackout was due to repression, yes. But then after a while these two countries started bombing the crap out of Iran, so now it’s a slightly different situation.

    Let’s imagine you have two crackheads smashing your front door: are you gonna be worried about fixing the internet at that very moment?

  • yardratianSoma@lemmy.caEnglish
    15·
    3 days ago

    You know, i think i might learn how to set up ad hoc networks to prepare for this sort of thing. I know its essentially wartime there now, but without internet, its harder to transmit the truth from the eyes of the civilians. Fucking sucks whats happening there. Repressive government, but filled with people who simply want a life free of the conflict, the endless battles, various ethnic groups simply wanting freedom from those who have invaded and partitioned their people.

    This cant end well. . .

  • PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.worldEnglish
    23·
    4 days ago

    There are some in the govt with whitelisted SIM cards and dissidents with starlink dishes but that’s it. Most Iranians are trying to get out of the country to get internet access at a risk.

  • BilboBargains@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    3 days ago

    Approximately 0.1 years out of 3 billion years, truly a crisis. Precisely what people occupied themselves with for 3 billion years before the internet existed we may never know. Some claim they spent quite considerable time as single cell organisms, then multicellular aquatic organisms, until the species reached it’s apogee, a flabby orange real estate pedo fraudster.

    • thermal_shock@lemmy.worldEnglish
      5·
      3 days ago

      That’s a stupid time frame. Wouldn’t be so bad except nearly everything relies on the Internet now. Especially information.

      • BilboBargains@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        2 days ago

        One thing that seemingly doesn’t rely on the internet is Iran’s masterful ability to make the American bullies look criminally stupid. It’s already hugely impressive, imagine what they could do with a bit of WiFi.

      • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        3 days ago

        lots of prepper fetishist weirdos in this thread who seem to think anyone who thinks electricity, plumbing, and internet is normal are ‘weak’.

        because apparently if we were ‘strong’ we would all be hunting animals and coking their carcasses over fires and sleeping outside… and communicating via smoke signal… lol

    • espentan@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      3 days ago

      Survival of the fittest, but unfortunately for all things earthly, for a brief period of time the fittest inexplicably turned out to be an orange blob of shit, jeopardizing any further evolution for all species.

  • pastermil@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    14·
    4 days ago

    … longest in world history

    the world history have appear to forget that the longest there was without internet was literally a few billion years.

    • Tilgare@lemmy.worldEnglish
      46·
      4 days ago

      Don’t be a pendant, you know what they fucking meant.

      Edit: actually, it’s not even pedantic, it’s just wrong. Before the internet existed, there was never an internet shutdown.

    • Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      4 days ago

      Akshually, they have Internet, it’s just turned off.

      The Internet and infrastructure didn’t exist for billions of years, so they couldn’t be without something that didn’t exists

    • antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      3·
      4 days ago

      They probably had internet in Atlantis, or something like it, so that would be a shutdown of like 20,000 years or so before it was invented again.

    • otp@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      46·
      4 days ago

      It would be very odd if the US or Israel did it, because this started when Iran wanted to stop communications among citizens who were protesting the government.

      TL;DR, yes. It was Iran. It began before the attacks on Iran (back when it was Iran attacking its own people)

      • Riverside@reddthat.comEnglish
        3·
        4 days ago

        It began before the attacks on Iran

        Not true. Iranian people have been attacked by murderous US+EU sanctions killing tens of thousands of them every year for decades now. The protests were literally engineered by the US as a form of justification for the war, look at Iranian Rial exchange prices on the months before the protests. Hell, Trump literally admit a few days ago to sending weapons to the “protestors”.

        • bluGill@fedia.io
          12·
          4 days ago

          Iran’s government has done plenty to deserve those sanctions. War is wrong no matter which side does it, and Iran is very guilty.

          • Riverside@reddthat.comEnglish
            4·
            4 days ago

            I wish you and your family never have to go through the “deserved sanctions” of the USA and EU, which together murder half a million people yearly since 1975 per latest medical research. I’m sure you don’t believe US citizens should starve to death for the actions of their government.

            • bluGill@fedia.io
              4·
              4 days ago

              saddly nobody has found a better option. Iran has had particularly evil leaders for decades. (Why is interesting history itself - but not relavant to today)

              • Riverside@reddthat.comEnglish
                1·
                3 days ago

                saddly nobody has found a better option

                I guess all Yanks should be starved for choosing the wrong president? Or is that something you reserve to nonwhites?

                • bluGill@fedia.io
                  1·
                  3 days ago

                  Or you can make war and kill innocents. Or you can turn your back and watch them kill innocents.

                  there are other variations, but I have yet to see an option that isn’t awful.

        • SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org
          2·
          4 days ago

          Sure, and Iran isn’t under a regime now, right? They shut down the internet because they didn’t like what was said over it.

              • Riverside@reddthat.comEnglish
                1·
                1 day ago

                “Regime” literally means “government”, it’s just a propaganda word to make it sound scary. You could perfectly correctly speak of the “American regime” imprisoning ethnic minorities or the “German regime” forbidding military-aged men from leaving the country without permission, the fact that you unironically use “regime in Iran” as if it were something intrinsically negative proves that your whole understanding of this is vibes-based. If you care about Iranians, riot in your EU/US homeland to destroy the economic sanctions, which MURDER HALF A MILLION people YEARLY over the globe since 1975 per the latest The Lancet publications.

    • Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      4 days ago

      Considering Iran shut the Internet off before the us/Israel attacked due to protests, I’m not sure we’ll ever know…

      • CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        4·
        4 days ago

        before the us/Israel attacked due to protests

        Israel and the US aren’t attacking due to the protests. They’re attacking because Israel wants to be like Nazi Germany leading up to the world wars and the US wants to help them.

        I question whether Iran actually did this because it seems like an extremely convenient timing of events that almost perfectly mimics the “WMDs” the media harped on about for weeks before we invaded Iraq almost like they’re following the exact same playbook used in that illegal invasion.

      • FatherPeanut@pawb.socialEnglish
        1·
        3 days ago

        I’ll translate the other guy’s comment;

        Israel and the US attacked because they were basically handed a golden opportunity in a world where they search for opportunity. The top governmental officials were present within the same room, confirmed by their intelligence officials, and during a vote for the next supreme leader. By attacking then, both the current government would be inept for days to weeks, and a new government would have a shoddy transition of power.

        Tl;Dr: the goal is a long, drawn-out war. I realized after writing this whole thing out, It’s totally a tangent you didn’t mention, but fugget I’m not gonna let it go to waste.

        Now, here’s the opportunity in that opportunity: A “short victory” is not the goal, this is a resource war. Venezuela was effectively captured by the US, Hegseth has stated intents to revitalize the Americas as the ‘American sphere of influence’ (paraphrased), Iran is unable to export significant oil, and with that goes most of the middle east’s production through the closed strait. This disproportionately favors the US, Russia, and Canada for oil production. Trump previously pushed his “51st state” agenda on Canada, and Russia is cutoff from trade with much of the world due to sanctions. This has the US in a position where it disproportionately benefits from having the Strait of Hormuz closed, and the longer it goes, the more reliant countries get on the US for energy.

        As to why it happens now, Trump is in power, and the current admin understands the developed world is slowly becoming more energy independent without the need for oil (alternative energy). This explains why the narrative is maintained that “green energy doesnt work,” while Europe actively sees progress and positive outcome with it. It’s not about what’s best for the American people he speaks to, it’s more oriented around what he wants to leverage in the current state of global affairs.