• hansolo@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    15
    ·
    14 days ago

    Not at all. This person is only describing life/work in some of the post-WII developed world. Historically, this is the anomaly, not the norm.

    For a large part of recorded history, the formula was that land/resource holders offered anyone the cheapest, lousiest, and worst acceptable conditions in exchange for work. The conditions of the resource holders also actually sucked, and when leveraging economies of scale, offers of relative physical and economic security (sure, you’ll be kinda poor, but you don’t have to travel to another town to sell grain to survive because the Lord will always buy it from you at a “fair” rate.) were typically the value add that made it worth it to consider share-cropping under nobility as opposed to simply going it alone.

    I’m not sure why Reddit and Lemmy seem so hell-bent on this fantasy version of history where farming is a joy denied us by the wealthy, but its hilariously misguided. Considering where things are headed, it sounds like for many it will end up being a dangerously wrong fantasy that others can take advantage of easily, and people that post things like this will learn the lesson first hand.

  • minorkeys@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    ·
    14 days ago

    We’ve long since discarded the faggy liberal Democrat reward system with the superior punishment system. /s

    We’ve gone from the reward being more happiness to the reward being less suffering.

    • Grostleton@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      14 days ago

      Even that is a pretty optimistic outlook, it’s more like a slightly slower increase in suffering over time rather than any sort of net decrease as a reward.

  • I Cast Fist@programming.dev
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    8
    ·
    14 days ago

    No, the way they got people to work was by enslaving them; then by “it’s not slavery, you just can’t leave without my permission” serfdom; then by forcing rural families to migrate to cities because mr landowner bought everything (or killed the owners), so that the factories could pay poverty level salaries; then, when workers got too riled up, by outsourcing work to wherever people were desperate enough to accept 10% of the pay.

    • zarathustrad@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      14 days ago

      I think you missed the part just prior to slavery where we had to work to avoid starving to death naked and alone exposed the elements.

        • zarathustrad@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          14 days ago

          Or rather, people have the urge to survive and will do whatever it takes.

          Whether that’s the hard labor of small groups subsistence level existing, for the reward of not starving and suffering the elements. Or putting sandwiches in a bag for a one room apartment and a cell phone.

    • cm0002@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      14 days ago

      Welcome to Lemmy Shitpost. Here you can shitpost to your hearts content. Anything and everything goes. Memes, Jokes, Vents and Banter. Though we still have to comply with lemmy.world instance rules. So behave!

    • zarathustrad@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      14 days ago

      Probably because the people who relaxed would soon be murdered by a more organized group with better nutrition, numbers, or weapons.