On Saturday, “an individual committed arson on a newly purchased ICE building” by breaking a window, igniting a fire and throwing a propane tank into the building, according to a U.S. Department of Homeland Security spokesperson.

“The fire was quickly extinguished by the interior sprinkler system,” DHS said, noting that the suspect fled the scene after setting the fire. “The matter remains under investigation by the FBI.”

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      Not really? The sprinklers put out the fire. The flood damage might or might not be a hassle to clean up, but it’s likely mostly mop work.

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        Depends on what kind of sprinkler system and how old it is. Some of them are closed systems and the water stays stagnant until it’s set off, so when it finally goes the water itself is a hazard because it’s been sitting potentially for years. It tends to come out very disgusting, black sludge that smells like actual shit. And then you have a whole specialized response and cleanup required because it’s loaded with bacteria.

        They won’t clean it though, they’ll piss away more money to hire specialized cleaners and contractors to fix the damage

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        Break a couple of sprinklers that are accessible outside. The system is pressurized. They last about 30 minutes depending on how many valves are open.

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          Commercial fire systems treat a sprinkler activation as an alarm condition. You wouldn’t be able to wait around for 30 afterwards. Fire department would be there which would cause issues for your plan.

          Modern commercial fire systems are very good. There are no simple solutions for arsonists. They would need physical access to the building disable the fire systems, or to be able to produce enough fire to overwhelm the spriniler’s abilities to extingush it.

          Few have both the will and ability.

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    Every one of these moves increases insurance costs and makes landlords less inclined to rent/sell to ICE. Even though the sprinkler system put out the fire, water damage remediation isn’t cheap either.

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    How would one go about successfully burning down a building with a sprinkler system?

    To be 100% clear, this question has nothing to do with the linked news story, I was just spontaneously reminded of a plot hole I’m trying to work out in a story I’m writing (in Minecraft).

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        Fire extinguishers that are rated for Class K fires (those involving animal fats or cooking oils) are the only type of extinguisher that can be used on fires involving animal fats or cooking oils. This is because many other types of extinguishers will either be ineffective or could even make this type of fire worse.

        1. WTF, people should be made more aware of this, but also
        2. The only fire I have ever needed to put out was a cooking oil fire, and my type A B C extinguisher made very quick work of it (as well as a completely uncleanable mess).
        3. Given 1 and 2, I have no idea whether I should replace the fire extinguisher in my kitchen with one that is class K.
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          yeah, my dad got badly burned by an oil fire he didn’t know what to do with and tried to walk out of the kitchen with. walked the burning pan out the house and got splashed as he threw the fire out into the yard. house was okay. his arm was not. happened before i was born. he made sure we all knew to have a lid handy.

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      You can’t put out grease fires with water… you need a different kind of system to put out grease fires… propane isn’t grease

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      I’d figure start from the top rather then bottom. Gasoline and shredded soap mixed in glass bottles to gel up your accelerant a bit might help as well. You still might not burn the place completely down but it should do enough damage to require it to shut down for a good while for fixes.

      Hypothetically, of course.

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        Like the Station fire and the recent one at the ski resort. The hot air coalesces above until it reaches flashover, after which it almost instantaneously ignites everything below it.

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      Turn off the water main first? Burn from the top down? Fill the sprinkler pipes with gasoline? Waterproof matches but bigger?

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    and throwing a propane tank into the building

    Not all heroes wear capes. Some simply distribute propane and propane accessories to those in need.

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    I know if i was in that local fire deparment this would be my highest priority. I would investigate the shit out of it. leaving no stone unturned. unturn all the stones yuppers.

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      It is different. The one in kansas city mo just threw some glass bottles with alcohol at the windows and then lit them on fire. She didn’t get through the windows. I don’t think she even did meaningful damage.

      Don’t get me wrong, her heart was in the right place, but the attempt was very poorly conceived.