Just to add some context…
President in Poland is in theory purely representative function. He should just greet foreign head of states, swear in judges, pose for pictures and so one. Very similar to what VP does in US but without being second in line for power. However, Polish constitution is badly written and accidentally gave president more power than he should have. It was OK for some time but the last two guys started abusing their powers and claiming they should actually run the country. Polish President is elected in separate elections to the parliamentary ones which decide who is the Prime Minister. Current President is from the opposition party and is in direct conflict with the government vetoing most of their reforms and doing other stupid shit like proposing silly laws.
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I mean, Poland has been clearly fascist for a pretty long time now, openly attacking minorities, but no one gives a shit because they are part of the EU so they are fine.
“Fascist” country with free elections in which the opposition party won against the far right ruling party.
Sorry, but that’s just bs…
Together with the figure of the “Polish Mother”, abortion restrictions are used to encourage women to have many children. This ideology reinforces the view that women’s place is in the home
From 2024, Poland also provides mandatory firearms training for pupils in primary and secondary schools
Poland is one of the most religious countries in Europe
Poland also has a significant rural population: about 40%, which is deeply conservative
According to ILGA-Europe’s 2025 report, the status of LGBTQ rights in Poland is among the worst of the European Union countries
No current protections for health services and hate crimes exist
conservative president Andrzej Duda, who previously described the LGBT movement as “a foreign ideology” and comparing it to indoctrination in the Soviet Union
Poland has not implemented the contracting or recognition of same-sex unions, although it is obliged to do so by judgments of the European Court of Human Rights
In August 2020, the Polish Episcopal Conference released a document which recommended the creation of counseling centres “to help people who want to regain their sexual health and natural sexual orientation”. It insists that the scientific consensus that conversion therapy is ineffective and potentially harmful to be “political correctness”
An Ipsos survey in October 2019 found that a majority of Polish men under 40 believe that “the LGBT movement and gender ideology” is the “biggest threat facing them in the 21st century”
According to a 2011 poll, 47% of Poles stated that “too many Muslims live in Poland”
Since the Muslim community in Poland is small (0.1% of the population) the situation has been described as “Islamophobia without Muslims”.
On public television, guests have spoken of Muslims as “uncivilized” and a threat to “European and Christian values” and have described them as “violent”: as “Jihadists”, “terrorists”, and “rapists”.
Do you want more? There’s plenty.
If Poland tried to join the EU right now it would never succeed.
The downvotes are just proving my point, for some reason people give a free pass to Poland but it’s not very different from, for example, Turkiye, even though the latter is not managing to join the EU.
You use this term ‘fascism’ but I’m thinking you don’t know what it means
“clearly fascist” arguments include:
one of the most religious countries
has a significant rural population
For example abortion ban that you started with, was introduced by the previous government and was hugely unpopular.
Poland has something Turkiye doesn’t, working democracy, so we got rid of that government.
You can easily find a lot of garbage that Polish people say, because we also have freedom of speech.
Abortion is still banned in most cases, just not fully illegal.
Religion and fascism go together, as the other quotes about islamophobia showed.
A rural population is fine, the quote that you conveniently truncated was about this major rural population being conservative which in other words means fascist.
If you are fine with racism, discrimination and torture of minorities as part of a “democracy” then I guess our disagreement comes from a very different definition of what democracies and fascism are.
Religion is bad because “it goes together with fascism”… Yet, Islamophobia is also bad… you attacked one religion and then attacked others for not being tolerant towards another religion. In same sentence!
being conservative which in other words means fascist.
Really? I really hope you are trolling.
racism, discrimination and torture of minorities as part of a “democracy”
You are absolutely oblivious about things you write about. You were never in Poland and after reading that utter nonsense I’m convinced you are russian troll. Or have severe brain damage. In either case I pity you. (And blocked you, no need to waste time arguing with morons)
Talk about a bad faith argument comment
He’s talking about the “no one gives a shit because they’re part of the EU” line. If you think that you haven’t been paying attention
Well did you see my list? And are there any consequences, is Poland forced to change by Europe or threatened to be kicked out? No, because no one cares. As I said, Turkiye is unable to join the EU because of things that are basically the same as Poland, but one is told that they need to improve, the other is not.
Maybe irrelevant but who the fuck decided that Turkey is to be called Turkiye now? If you’re speaking English it’s fucking Turkey. Otherwise better start calling Germany Deutschland, Finland Suomi, Greece Ellada and so on.
I honestly think that should be the default.
Agreed, but for some weird reason the fact that Turkey is the only one where somehow everyone suddenly abides by their whim pisses me off.
What are you talking about? The Court of Justice of the EU ruled against Poland and fined them for [~half a billion €}(https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-court-finds-poland-guilty-in-rule-of-law-dispute/). The EU started an Article 7 procedure against them and stopped it after the new government started to implement changes.
Oh, and the new government came into power through voting, I didn’t know that’s something “clearly fascist” countries do.
Your list was kind of shit.
The actual fascist stuff you listed was very recent, and the rest is conflating a bunch of less desirable things like religion and conservative farmers with outright fascism.
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