Hold on …
Are you saying all software hosted on github is infected with copilot? Or am I misreading the situation?
I guess it’s about copilot scanning the code, submitting PRs, reporting security issues, doing code reviews and such.
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Your confusion is understandable since MS has called like 4 different products “Copilot”. This refers to the coding assistant built into GitHub for everything from CI/CD to coding itself.
All code uploaded to GitHub is subject to being scraped by Copilot to both train and provide inference context to its model(s).
Basically having your code in GitHub is implicit consent to have your code fed to MSs LLMs.
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Did this few months ago. Everyone should do the same.
More distros need to follow. No FOSS should have any relationship to Microsoft or their products.
Gentoo is still around‽ But Arch exists and eMachines was discontinued like 10 years ago!
Gentoo is more linux than anyhing. It is literally a penguin. What does Arch have?
Users
Here, you dropped your ‘I use arch, btw’
Gentoo is still a better distro, it underpins every ChromeOS device (they just do the compilation for you)
I don’t necessarily disagree with the first sentence (fan of Gentoo; never used Arch), but the second sentence is not helping its case.
I don’t have to love ChromeOS to acknowledge that it’s a sold OS that’s commercially viable and that’s only possible because of the solid Gentoo base it’s built on.
Your Freudian slip is right, LOL.
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it’s a sold OS
Anyway, sure, Gentoo is a good choice to build on, but picking an evil thing as the example doesn’t exactly endear one to your POV, emotionally speaking. Besides, SteamOS is based on Arch, so the notion that Gentoo is strictly “better” (not equal) to Arch on the basis of being used to make distros for commercial products isn’t very persuasive.
I’m not saying you’re wrong about Gentoo being good. I’m just saying the supporting argument is a weak one, and doubling down by saying that sort of thing is “only possible” with Gentoo is even weaker.
I know this is probably sarcastic but honestly Gentoo’s great if you don’t trust binaries by default. Nothing is an absolute guarantee against compromise, but it’s an awful lot harder to compromise a source code repository or a compiler without anyone noticing (especially if you stick to stable versions) than it is to compromise a particular binary of some random software package. I trust most package maintainers, but they’re typically overworked volunteers and not all of them are going to have flawless security or be universally trustworthy.
I like building my own binaries from source code whenever possible.
Genuine question from a longtime Linux user who never tried Gentoo - doesn’t updating take forever? I used a source build of firefox for a bit and the build took forever, not to mention the kernel itself
Depends on your system specs, but… yes, generally speaking. There is a reason most people and most distros use binaries. Even Gentoo can use binaries for some stuff.
Are you going to suffer significant damage if your updates take forever though? What’s the hurry? The number of times I have literally needed the absolute latest version of something installed right now are pretty damn minimal. The major exception is widespread, exploited zero-day remote-access vulnerabilities, but those are rare, and especially rare are ones that affect the exact versions and configurations of software that I am currently using and cannot reasonably just opt to “stop” using. Even so, there are usually other ways to block the network traffic, disable the offending part of the configuration, or otherwise mitigate the risk. Besides, there’s nothing stopping you from literally just downloading a patched binary if that’s what you need at that moment.
Patience is a virtue, and it’s generally good for you. You don’t have to be addicted to constant updates, but you do need to be thoughtful and understand how to build defense-in-depth.
It’s not so much “I must have the latest version NOW” and more that while it was building my system load would spike from 0.1 to 7+ and everything ran like shit for like half an hour.
I’m a messy, impatient boy - I know my limitations!
That’s fair, it’s certainly not for everyone (nor for every situation).
The because of training claim is wrong.
Quoting the Gentoo post:
Mostly because of the continuous attempts to force Copilot usage for our repositories,
It seems to be about GitHub pushing copilot usage, not them training on data. Moving away doesn’t prevent training anyway. And I’m sure someone will host a mirror on hitting if they don’t.
Codeberg does actively try to prevent bot scraping.
Excellent!
It’s funny that all the pro-AI chuds suddenly coming out of the woodwork to try and say this is a terrible idea.
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