• ChicoSuave@lemmy.world
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      Republicans want immigrants as long as they are tied to a visa, which makes the immigrant reliant on their employer to stay in the country. It’s basically a personalized tyranny.

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        How many people “deported” already had legal paper work? Providing them with different paperwork isn’t going to change anything.

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    Brocero Program 2.0

    It’s funny how the US relationship with Mexico and South America has ping-ponged back and forth between “We need these people to sustain the economy!” and “These people are invaders who are erasing our culture!” for like the last century.

    I said it back during Trump’s first term and I’ll say it again (and again and again as time moves forward, as I’m sure people will never wise up to the game) - illegal immigration is a nothingburger of an issue that gets puffed up every time an authoritarian needs a scapegoat to blame all of societies woes on.

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      The worst part is the people don’t even want to stay here. If they could, they would come to work, and then leave after they made their money so they could be with their families. But they’re scared they won’t be able to come back so they never leave.

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    SURE, get a visa, then ICE sees you, beats you and maybe kills you, then throws you into a deplorable concentration camp for weeks.

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    Texas builders were happy to exploit people who they could underpay for their labor due to their precarious position. If we gave immigrants regardless of status workers rights like minimum wage and union protection the new complaint wouldn’t be about deportations, but about how wages are too high right now.

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      Texas builders were happy to exploit people who they could underpay

      Just like the entire USA pretty much since it was created.

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        Its almost like the immigration laws only exist to create a permanent underclass and they worked really well at doing exactly that.

        Imo, anyone in a trump concentration camp should just get citizenship as part of the de-trumpification process.

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    If ICE can detain you without checking your papers and with no due process for the crime of looking a bit too bronze, what good is a new type of visa?

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    Funny, I remember Florida running into a similar issue a few years ago when DeSantis passed that law making it illegal for migrant workers/immigrants to drive or for US citizens to drive them.

    Houses left to rot as workers fled the state and supply chains disrupted as freight trucks refused to enter the state and simply dumped their loads at the border.

    I never did hear how that worked out for them, but I imagine they quietly walked back that law and pretended that it never happened.

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    They want an endless supply of people they can keep pointing to as the ‘out crowd.’ They keep using the stick, but neglected any use of the carrot. Now the mule has gotten wise to them.

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    So apparently ICE doesn’t accept given official id anyways, why is anyone going to want to come on a hope they don’t end up in a concentration camp? Yeah I’m not betting on those odds.

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    Probably the only guy who became president in a very long time to actually have a well thought out immigration policy was George W. Bush (yes, the war criminal) back when he was governor of Texas. He even wanted to implement some of it as president. Unfortunately, he was a dummy, Cheney was a cartoon villain, and 9/11 absolutely derailed any conversations about doing anything that did not involve killing muslims and erroding Americans’ civil liberties.

    To this day, some of his immigration ideas are what MAGA would call super woke.

    https://www.bushcenter.org/topics/immigration

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      Yep. And even with that 2012 autopsy saying go back towards something like this they went full on maga bullshit and somehow won.

      Says a lot about Republicans and our country.

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    This brand new visa is called the:

    Standard

    Labor

    Agreement

    for

    Varied

    Employment

    Or SLAVE for short. Please disregard the similarity to the word depicting the oppression of others. It REALLY has nothing to do with that. REALLY!!!

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    From the House member’s page:

    The legislation responds to pressing labor shortages in essential industries by creating a market-driven temporary worker program that adapts to economic conditions. The bill creates a new H-2C nonimmigrant visa, available to employers who prove their positions have gone unfilled for three consecutive months and in areas where the unemployment rate is 7.9% or less.

    Wasn’t this a pain point with H-1Bs? They want things to cost less but don’t want to bring in cheap foreign labour to depress wages? How do they not understand supply and demand? “Go be a plumber, they make good money” “Wow, this quote I got from that plumber is so high” “Me be a plumber? No way”

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      And the fruit and wine industry, and cleaning / housekeeping, and kitchens and all those other industries that only survive in the US on cheap labor

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    And the visasl application deposits are efficiently channeled into accounts coincidentallt controlled by whom?