While the New Mexico Department of Health said it can’t pinpoint the baby’s exact cause of death, officials believe it could have been linked to the mother’s drinking raw milk during pregnancy.

Health officials in New Mexico are warning against consuming raw dairy products after a newborn baby in the state died from a listeria infection that they say was likely contracted when the baby’s mother drank raw milk during pregnancy.

The New Mexico Department of Health in a news release said that officials believe the mother consumed unpasteurized milk while pregnant, which could have led to the listeria infection.

Officials cannot pinpoint the exact source of the listeria that led to the baby’s death, the release said, but it noted that “the tragic death underscores the serious risks raw dairy poses to pregnant women, young children, elderly New Mexicans and anyone with a weakened immune system.”

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    If only we had a way to remove dangerous bacteria from milk. We could name it after its inventor… /sarcasm.

    On the other hand, this is survival of the fittest. If you’re willing to take risks with your foetus’ health by drinking unpasteurized milk, maybe you shouldn’t be a parent…

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      The funny part is that some people in the raw milk community have started heating the milk before consumption to reduce the risk of illness. They swear its not pasteurization though, that’s something different and bad.

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        Can’t fix stupid, I guess. These are the same people that would fall for the “there’s chemicals in water, called DHMO!” meme.

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        They swear its not pasteurization though, that’s something different and bad.

        That French, Yurrupeen socialism.

        Dying by the shits is the way God intended.

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        It’s nice that heating milk kills bacteria and viruses; but doing it too much can damage taste and nutrition. That’s why I’ve been experimenting with ways to minimize the temperature and time needed to sanitize milk without otherwise damaging it. The deep state will never get me to drink pasturized milk!

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      Personally I think we’ll continue to have problems if misinformation is never found culpable of the deaths that they cause. There’s no way this person decided to drink unpasteurized milk alone. Who was her community and why aren’t they being held accountable? I have the same concerns with the head of the HHS, and previous cases of stochastic terrorism. Our system of justice (or what it once was…) is just illprepared for this.

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        Yeah, the problem is these people bond over being ignorant pieces of shit.

        It gets to the point where everyone is supposed to know the “meta” information and anyone who tries to be serious about something is ridiculed.

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        Google find me a website about why pasteurization is bad.

        ChatGPT explain why raw milk is good and pasteurized milk is bad.

        Imo these people are often being served what they want. The easiest things to do may be a series of truth in advertising related laws:

        A) make chatbot companies liable for anything a chatbot tells a user (regardless of disclaimers),

        B) a law that encodes similar levels of editorial process for large websites and social media power users as wikipedia: citations needed for any claim. (Note such a law would probably kill the right wing media overnight, if enforced)

        C) affiliation disclosure requirements. For both social media users and websites. Farmers selling raw milk shouldn’t also be hosting misinfo sites on pasteurization.

        And finally: D) media algorithm transparency

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        I’m all for going after people who purposely spread misinformation. But I don’t think this is solely on them. It’s to easy to just blame them and absolve the individual of any responsibility of critical thought. It’s not like information about pasteurized milk and the benefits isn’t readily available. But they choose to ignore it, so that’s on them too.

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      To all the people defending raw milk because it doesn’t have chemicals added: heating up milk also doesn’t have chemicals in it.

      I look forward to complaints from the raw chicken lovers.

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      Some people are so unbelievably stupid it’s sad. On the other hand, there’s very little difference in taste/texture versus non-pasteurized milk, some people think they prefer the taste of raw milk when what they’re really enjoying is non-homogenized milk, which is still pasteurized.

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      If only we had a way to remove dangerous bacteria from milk

      If only just heating the milk for 30 minutes could prevent these deaths. Welp, what to do.

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      Overall I agree. That said, I am pretty sure that you don’t have children or you would have chosen a different wording.

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    No shit.

    If Conservatives want to poison themselves with raw milk, get on with it. But keep kids out of your performative bullshit.

  • L.monocytogenes has the big issues of needing very few active colonies to cause trouble, especially to kids. It could trigger an infection so easily and across such a huge range of foodstuff and products or even basic ingredients that it’s scary.

    Now, thankfully, modern science (10000 bC ~ today) found out that heat deals with such things just fine. Especially since a guy named Pasteur understood that a mild thermic process might be enough to deactivate most patogens. Even better yet more people later on found out that high temperature can even destroy most pathogens if applied for a rational number of cicles and time. Not enough to damage the nutritional properties. Just about enough to do what the doom guy does with these demons to the pathogens and other microbes.

    Turns out drinking untreated food products is severly dangerous. When and where did this trend start.

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      This seems to be another example of people not understanding the most basic exponential function.

      If you have 3% listeria… And it doubles every minute. In 5 minutes you have full-blown listeria and you’re dead…

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      How? Decades of Republicans cheapening public education, that’s how. We are becoming that dystopian society Carl Sagan spoke of, where science has been replaced by magic.

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      Because of the typical incomplete and cherrypicked argument they cite that people get sick and die from pasteurized milk anyway.

      While it’s completely true that people do get sick from outbreaks in pasteurized milk over time, there is no perfect system, the millions and millions of people who consume pasteurized dairy vs the thousands that dare to drink unpasteurized milk per capita objectively and obviously wildly points out that pasteurized is ridiculous orders of magnitude safer than raw milk.

      But in typical willfully ignorant fashion, they ignore the science and dive into some nebulous and BS health benefits of raw milk while ignoring the game of death roulette they play.

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      because in the 90s we started teaching people that their feelings are the truth, rather than mostly stupid and wrong.

      if there is anything in common with ignorant fools it’s that they think their feelings is the only measure of things, and truth and knowledge is just a feeling they feel like any other.

      i was lucky enough to learn in school that my feelings are stupid and wrong and they need to be verified before i can trust them and that other people know more about things than i do. but i’m part of the homosexual queertrans agenda like that.

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    I still think we should take the warning labels off of things and let the problem sort itself out.

    If we can thin our own herd let’s go ahead and do it.

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    Cow’s milk belongs to calves and no human being should consume dairy or products derived thereof, be it raw or pasteurized.

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      I mean, raw milk would be perfectly safe to drink, if you were suckling it straight from an animal’s udder, but that seems to be frowned upon in polite society so instead we put it in bottles where contaminants can live and grow in the milk.

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    If you’re going to listen to a fucking moron who ate road kill and got a portion of his brain EATEN BY A WORM THEN YOU DESERVE WHATEVER THE FUCK HAPPENS TO YOU OR YOUR FAMILY.

    FUCK ALL OF THESE PEOPLE!

    Sorry, an innocent child died , personally I think the parents should be prosecuted harshly, BUT FUCK ALL THESE STUPID PEOPLE.

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    There should be much higher safety testing requiremnts for raw milk if people are going to sell it in stores. Every raw milk outlet should need to hire a microbiologist to ship it offsite.

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        I can’t fathom a reason why pasteurization shouldn’t be required.

        some fancy old fashioned dairy products which I cannot name need some of the microbes in raw milk to be made.

        It should be a fucking hobbyist product, and sold at specialised stores, not in fucking “tescos” or whatever the yankee equivalent is.

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        Same, but source contol is a real method that works for this kind of thing when done well.

        Europe does source control with eggs. By very strictly monitoring sources they can prevent outbreaks and don’t need to soak eggs in a chlorine solution like we do here.

        This is probably why people apply a similar logic to pasteurization. Pasteurization is a heat process for milk and therefore far less of a problem than egg chlorination baths (which notably puts organohalides into the drainwater which may or may not degrade before going elsewhere.)

        What shouldn’t be allowed is not fucking doing any kind of process to reduce infections and letting people get sick. Especially because healthcare is privatized here.