Flight crews cannot declare a passenger dead. Therefore it is a medical emergency until a qualified medical professional does so. A physician on board might do so, but that gets muddy real quick legally.
Also, the diversion for a likely dead person isn’t for the dead person, it’s for the family that would sue the airline for carrying on for however long to the destination. They’d argue whether or not the person might have had a chance had they diverted. So legally and financially an airline will try to get seriously ill or potentially dead people off the plane as soon as practical.
Can’t they just make sure they are dead? Put a plastic bag on their head or something? If there’s an air marshal on the flight they might have a gun. That would resolve any doubts about their chances real quick.
What if the person is Rasputin?
Check his ID and make sure he’s not.
A doctor AND a lawyer, impressive
They’ve put a whole lot of effort into making those things safe and you’re here trying to make them murder vehicles??
Woosh
Aww man? Not again!
They are not that safe if people still die in them…
Well, people do die… Its pretty rare for things to go wrong in planes. In the context of this post it seems quite unrelated
even if the head isn’t attached on the body anymore?
I was an EMT and we were taught you do CPR until pronouncement, except if there’s obvious signs of mortality, of which decapitation is one. Livor/rigor mortis. Shoes off. All obvious signs of mortality.
I was once told by an EMT that you do CPR unless the spine is clearly severed in any place. Basically the person doesn’t have to be cut in half at the neck. Anywhere above legs counts.
I have my shoes off and I am mortal.
This isn’t Highlander.
Dude already made his connection, why does everyone else have to miss theirs?
Does anyone have a link to the skit where cops were called on a guy hauling his dead dad in a wheelbarrow through the neighborhood?
Went something like -
Cop: We got calls of a body being hauled through the neighborhood in a wheelbarrow.
Guy: Yup, that’s me.
Cop: Why didn’t you call 911?
Guy: 911 is for emergencies. I woke up and he was already dead. So no emergency.
Cop: Why does that kind of make a ton of sense?
Sounds like the Innocent Criminal from Reno 911
Skimming 4chan random a couple of months ago, there was a post on the worst of India. One picture was of a train route with a few tracks and a half dozen people strewn dead across the ground. It was impossible to tell the circumstances, but they were clearly dead and broken. No one cared. All the surroundings were business as usually and no one was responding or concerned. By the way things looked, some had been there for awhile.
Nope. Fuck that. I want nothing to do with such a pathetic amoral society. I will gladly miss my connection out of respect for life, anyone’s, everyone’s. I care about you digital neighbor reading this now. My slight inconvenience is not worth more than your life.
It is probably very difficult to transport a dead person post mortem, and lessening that journey for your family is important too.
Impressive to feel you understand a country of 1.4 billion people from a single picture, let alone call them “pathetic” and “amoral.” The world’s most populous country with dozens of languages and cultures. One single picture. Like I said, impressive…ignorance.
I lived in India for years, in multiple cities north and south, and I’ve traveled all over the country by train on my own as a foreigner. Easily some of the best experiences of my life.
India is dozens of nations posing as one single nation state. To generalize it is impossible. To generalize it from a single picture is a degree of simplistic thinking I’m not sure I’ve ever encountered from an adult.
It is an easily mistaken context dear neighbor, if one were to project my abstraction into some emotional space, but I assure you the assumption is patently false. For when I say such a society it is an abstraction against my perception, and principally grounded in the post about the man that died on an airplane. I am calling out the chasm of how the morals and ethics extrapolate, and conjuring a picture that illustrates my point. I lead off that illustration by clearly stating that my perspective is ungrounded and that it is impossible to do so from such a simple scope of a time and place. However, I’m also conjuring a circumstance that should garner empathy to counter other sentiments I see as grossly immoral.
Further, one should duly note that In have clearly stated I care about anyone and everyone, which obviously includes the wonderful people of India. I do not accept any assertion that some lives are merely acceptable collateral damage due to the population density or narcissistic adolescent halfwits that fail to project themselves onto the lives of others with empathy.
So it is quite the opposite of what you imagined. My indignation is against those that accept these poor people as worthless, if that happened to be the case, and the image was plain and straightforward. It does not matter whether my assumptions are correct in the trauma I felt when seeing that image. The moral and ethical implications of the abstraction extrapolate to the situation on the plane. If one dead body is irrelevant, than six are equally the same, and the end result is a complete breakdown of civilization into barbarism. That it is grounded in a kernel of reality, lends the illustrative tool the teeth needed to make the principal stick, however it is only an abstraction.
The way you speak leads me to believe you wear fedoras regularly
M’They’dy
Never worn one. I’m on Fedora 43 if it makes you feel better.
That’s a lot of words for very little meaning, maybe consider saying more with less
That is a lot of toxicity for nothing of any value whatsoever.
Brah, having been to Northern India, it is a decay of the value of human life.
Nobody gives a shit about cleanliness; there’s garbage and vermin everywhere, open sewage, people burning tires and chemicals on the streets.
Nobody gives a shit about ambulances, they don’t make way for them, they bathe in the Ganges river where there are literal corpses floating nearby. They literally shit on the beaches.
The South is better, but holy hell, never returning to the North.
Similar stuff exists everywhere. India has some of the worst I have seen, but there are places in the USA that are no better. Some Native American reservations are on par, as are parts of the most rural and poorest states.
Ah yes, 4chan, the pinnacle of unbiased moral discussion and verified news. A beacon of truth and honesty.
Agree with your respect for life sentiment tho.
Yeah unfortunately for you I think the post is bullshit. People die on planes all the time. I mean, enough for airlines to have protocols for it.
They used to just put people in first class seats with shades and a newspaper but apparently that was “insensitive”.
Seriously, who reads newspapers these days?
I mean the video is from before 2016 (as that’s when Stephen left QI) and in the part where they’re saying that, they’re quoting something which was already a quote, and it begins with “many years ago…”
tell that to the passenger strapped next to the dead guy for however many hours.
I used to know a pathologist who would get called in on her days off to do autopsies sometimes. She didn’t laugh at my jokes about patients who really ought to lie down, chill, and wait until Monday.
Also, who knows what that dude died off? I don’t want to be breathing in that dead guy’s germs.
Instead, the airlines should just adopt old sea voyage rules. Die on the plane? Out the back you go, DB Cooper style!
Or, better, give them the old Admiral Nelson treatment! Just stick them in an airtight suitcase with the contents of all of those wee little liquor bottles!
Do you want to be on the plane when the corpse voids its bowels?
He’s kinda got a point
Just throw them out the door
…And then it was two. 💀
“Don’t mind the corpse, it’s just one of them things. We will be landing at the normal time, and we can only hope that the Ebola he died from isn’t that contagious now he’s dead. See you on the ground… probably.”
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Completely agree. Maybe some people were feeling queasy though, idk.
