• DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca
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      2 months ago

      Frankly, at the point we’re already at, this time around the cause would be “We don’t like competition”.

  • deafboy@lemmy.world
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    Some say it’s useless to overthrow a government, because the first thing people do after is create another government. It’s highly unusual to skip the first step, though.

  • just_another_person@lemmy.world
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    I think you’re asking about secession, and at what point that becomes necessary?

    Texas threatens this every decade or so. The problem is that any individual states outside of New York and California would not be able to subsist. These two states because they have massive economies and are coastal, others because they are landlocked between.

    The first order of business down this road is finding legal ways to stop the flow of money from these states to the federal government and starving them, which will invariably destroy the country as a whole.

    It’s complicated.

  • Teh@sh.itjust.works
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    Uh… where exactly? There’s not a lot of land that isn’t claimed by someone already and unless you’re willing to hold whatever new nation you’re trying to form by force, you’ll have a hard time. Trying to do that in the middle of the Gobi Dessert probably only requires a few million in weapons, but water is gonna be hard to come by. Trying it inside the USA is gonna be pretty tough. I’ll suggest buying an island for a couple billion, spend another couple billion on infrastructure and then just a kinda lay-low government, where you don’t officially claim independence, but also don’t really follow the laws you don’t like (see Epstein island for more details).

    • DylanMc6 [any, any]@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      A lot of micronations were formed in the micronational head of state’s property, so as long as you have your own property to claim as a micronation, then you’re good.

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        Again I ask… where exactly? Inside the USA your micro nation is going to have to either follow all the laws of the local, regional and national governments, or be prepared to defend it by force.

  • fort_burp@feddit.nl
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    Yes. Power’s biggest fear is irrelevance. That’s why power in distress is so violent- it’s forcing it’s relevance into a place where it doesn’t provide anything and is not needed or wanted. At this point all the institutions in the US are a hindrance to the people and the people can manage much better without them.