• trager_bombs@lemmy.worldOP
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    23 days ago

    Well, y’see, the other side historically has voted to increase/maintain this organization that’s terrorizing our country so…

    Yes, they are both at fault. 🤷🏽‍♂️ I’m sorry that doesn’t align with your immediate reaction, but it doesn’t change their compliance with building this atrocity.

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      22 days ago

      Trump is already talking about canceling the next election, and you want Progressives to stay home.

      Sounds like you’re doing Trump’s job for him.

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        22 days ago

        This isn’t team sports, bud, this is rich fucks versus normal people.

        You want to stand on business about real change, you have to be ready and willing to hold the government accountable no matter the banner they fly under. I wanted Zohran and AOC to be better, but they’re not. They’re supporting cruelty and death across the globe. 🤷🏽‍♂️

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          22 days ago

          You didn’t actually respond to the point, that you’re doing Trump’s job for him.

          A lot of people didn’t vote last time because of the genocide in Gaza. Now we have a genocide in Gaza, an ongoing genocide in Ukraine, and new one in Venezuela, plus ICE killing folks here in the USA.

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            22 days ago

            And the DNC has learned nothing.

            Schumer and Jefferies can’t even muster the bare minimum of saying that ICE needs to be removed from our streets.

            Sanders is playing both sides of Venezuela AND Israel.

            Pelosi has more insider trading crimes under her belt than I have ass hair.

            Stop blaming your neighbors and point that indignant rage at the people playing you like a fool. Demand better than shiny turds.

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                    22 days ago

                    Buddy, expecting you to hold the people you vote for accountable has no bearing on ICE being trigger happy Nazis. 🤷🏽‍♂️

                    I did my due diligence and voted even though Kamala doesn’t deserve it, and not once have I said ‘don’t vote’. Sharpen your fangs somewhere else.

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              22 days ago

              Mamdani and AOC did it, in the strongest Democrat strong hold in the nation.

              Who are you pushing in the primaries? How much have you sent to ActBlue?

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                Mamdani and AOC are actively condemning pro Palestine protestors in NYC.

                Not condemning the Zionists using synagogues in NYC to host real estate sales of West Bank properties.

                Not condemning the pro Zionist counter protesters flying hate flags and spewing bile.

                Immediately attacking the left.

                They lied to get the votes and are knee capping momentum on the people’s movements to protect genocidal warmongers.

                I am deeply sorry, and I understand it’s a pain in the ass to keep being disappointed in these politicians- But I’m not the villain for expecting the DNC to do better. 🤷🏽‍♂️

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      The first pass the post mathematically produces a two party system (not voting won’t change it, support ranked choice voting).

      Republican party was essentially taken over by MAGA.

      Democrats are basically everyone else. They have different views and that’s why they are not as effective.

      Among Democrats there are so-called corporate democrats which normally would be Republicans, some of them might even be fine with trump.

      The solution here isn’t being apathetic and so voting because “both parties are the same”.

      The solution here is the opposite and being involved much more. Replacing those corporate Democrats with progressives in primaries and during general election voting for Democrats as every Republican that wins seat will be much worse than even those corporate democrats.

      We got here because public apathy, and taking democracy for granted. People still don’t understand how fragile democracy is and how easy it is to lose it despite trump and Republicans being in the middle of destroying it.