“Fcking bitch,” Jonathan Ross, the ICE agent who killed Renee Good, says in the video.*

A newly released cellphone video, apparently filmed by the ICE officer who killed Renee Nicole Good, and obtained by Minneapolis-based Alpha News, a conservative-leaning nonprofit news site, appears to sharply contradict the U.S. government’s public account of the fatal Wednesday shooting, raising new questions about whether the agent who opened fire was ever in immediate danger.

The footage was recorded on a cellphone by ICE officer Jonathan Ross, not by a department body camera. It captures Ross’s own perspective as he approaches Good’s maroon Honda Pilot during what the Department of Homeland Security claims was a federal operation in south Minneapolis.

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      I think these people are so far down the rabbit hole that they don’t even realize that their narrative is bullshit. Nobody in the Administration looked at that video and said “shit, we have a problem” because they’re all True Believers and think they are right about everything.

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        Exactly, I’ve seen people on their side saying this video makes the victim look bad…

        These people are too far gone.

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          Some people need an enemy or they can’t make sense of the world. I’m not talking about a run of the mill competitive streak, they simply can’t understand society as anything other than a struggle for dominance. If they don’t have some sort of conflict to focus on, they make one just to quiet the cognitive dissonance they’re feeling.

          I don’t know if it’s learned or innate, but it makes people easy fodder for conspiracy theories and the sort of high-functioning sociopaths we’ve been electing recently.

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        Or course they don’t. The only consistency in their narrative is their incessant need to be right. They say she tried to run ICE over, you show that’s not true. They pivot to she shouldn’t have been running away from the scene of the crime. You tell them there was no crime, they pivot to ICE had a right to detain her. Tell them ICE actually has no right to detain citizens they’ll say how they don’t actually know the law, they can only give their opinion and then loop back around to “she tried to run them over” so she’s in the wrong.

        They’re not interested in getting to the truth, they’re only interested in being right. Since they only care about being right they also don’t care about being internally consistent. They will accept whatever contradictory bullshit as long as it means they’re right.

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        They’re literally in a death cult.

        Yes, they are ‘true believers’, if you wanna phrase it that way.

        Thats… how fascism works, you make up what functionally constitutes a religion, based on mythic narratives revolving around blood and soil, which mentally place the adherent into the role of a religious extremist, fighting for their perverted idea of ‘justice’.

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        I saw a video recently covering the proliferation of body cam YouTube. A side-conclusion was that in most of the most viral “Karen does xyz,” the “Karen” is a racist conservative that voted for Trump, sometimes they even inform the officers of their voting choices. A person like that freaks out because the system they voted for is affecting them, when they thought it affect the “bad people,” of which they, of course, aren’t. They’re good, they don’t have a previous criminal record, unlike those “other [colored] people.” Some of them even said that part out loud.

        It was obviously said better in the video, but it made a lot of sense to me, and it makes even more sense when we see these peoples’ role models doing the exact same thing; insisting they’re right when they clearly are not.

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        Reminds me of videos from Iraq and Afghanistan and how it made yankistanis so proud of extra judicial killings. Similar to how ISIS did for innocent people.

        So out of touch with empathy.

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      These morons think this proves they’re right. Vance retweeted the video as said this

      “Watch this, as hard as it is,” Vance wrote. “Many of you have been told this law enforcement officer wasn’t hit by a car, wasn’t being harassed, and murdered an innocent woman. The reality is that his life was endangered and he fired in self defense.”

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        I’ve never wanted to punch someone square in the face quite as much as Vance while watching his press conference. The level of disingeniuty and vileness from these people is somehow still shocking, and I didnt think I could be surprised by how low they could go anymore

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        The Party told you to ignore the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

        • George Orwell, 1984
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        Then don’t actually believe that. They just don’t care. They’re taunting everyone who isn’t outright evil.

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      They think this is a definitive proof that she tried to kill him. They’re saying this is body cam footage and that him putting his phone down to grab his gun was him getting hit. They’ve already forgotten every other video out there.

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      What’s absolutely bonkers is the DHS went out and immediately called her a domestic terrorist. Our tax dollars paid to kill her and post propaganda on x defaming her.

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        If you’re a Democrat your car immediately becomes a lethal weapon are you must be stopped by any means necessary -  if the pedestrian is a Republican.

        If you’re a Republican you may use your vehicle to kill any Democrat under any circumstances.

        There’s no attempt to reconcile these two conflicting opinions…from a knuckle dragging Fox viewer to SCOTUS.

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        They had to immediately make that call.
        Anyone with even an ounce of brain matter sees the true story, but the Trump camp needed to quickly twist the facts to keep the MAGAts on their side and slathering at the mouth.

        This murder is 1000x worse, but the narrative is exactly the same as the ‘immigrants are eating people’s pets’ bullshit.
        All 100% untrue, but the Trump people will continue to lie, double-down and shout their version of the story at every possible moment to drown out the real truth. Which is, they are full of shit, and they know they are full of shit, but they can’t risk showing even the slightest crack in their hold on power, as warped as it is.

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      It looks doctored to me.

      For one thing they made physical contact which we know didn’t happen. For another, it’s 47 seconds long.

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        I did see physical contact in another video.

        It looks like the corner of the car is up against him, but he put himself there and she was clearly turning away from him. Then he just pushes himself off the car as she is turning and shoots her.

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          Nope. It looks like it, but another angle shows it never got anywhere near him, and his first shot was after jumping back, anyway. And also, this video shows him approaching AS IT’S MOVING.

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            I’m not disagreeing with him putting himself on that position. I am not defending this murderer at all, but I don’t think it is helpful to claim there was no contact when there clearly was.

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        I’ve seen three videos now and the other two both appear to show contact. Those are the view from above and in front, down the street. It’s quite poor quality but seems to show the killer against the car as it moves away; and the view from behind, which is better quality but a worse angle. It also looks like he was touching the car/contacted by it as it moves off.

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    Her wife, Becca Good, stands nearby, recording as well.

    Her wife WATCHED HER GET MURDERED by Jonathan Ross? What a blood curdling nightmare.

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      Could happen to anyone of us. If ICE agents don’t start taking bullets to the face soon, then that probability increases exponentially over the next few months.

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        Ice shooting people is already becoming more common. They’re escalating because there has been no consequences.

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        I don’t think untrained violent people will respond less violently when the likelihood of violence against them increases. I would say y’all need to build barricades to safeguard neighborhoods, you need masses that can only be mowed down, and need to avoid being easily singled out. Using the car you are sitting in as a barricade is incredibly dangerous because there is a track record of using vehicles as weapons.

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      It just gets worse the more videos and angles you see.

      I hope Jonathan Ross’s family watches as the state executes him for premeditated murder.

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    In the video the cop conspicuously stops and pauses to look at the political stickers on the back of the vehicle before the shooting.

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      I noticed that too. He clearly was documenting her for future harassment at the very least.

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      Those are just national park stickers iirc but I’m sure these toe headed lumps didn’t know that.

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    Even if there was 4k 360° video of Renee being murdered by this scum the Trump administration would still side with the murderer.

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    This is pointless. Even if she was aggressive and tried to kill this man, she’d be right to. This should not be able whether this Nazi felt in danger, they should feel threatened when they attack communities or random people. This video shows that peace is not an option with them. Consequences for chuds reduces their numbers significantly, they scatter when they realize they could actually get hurt.

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      Well, I’m not sure him feeling danger is relevant. Who cares? He put himself into the danger he felt.

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        Yes. That is what I said, except I don’t care if he even felt it. I’m saying they should feel threatened when they obviously do not.

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    Not surprising that the evidence contradicts the administration’s claims, because they constantly lie.

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    Yes, walking in front of, and behind a vehicle with it’s engine on SHOULD have made him feel danger. No one told him to walk in front of and behind a vehicle with the engine on, but if I’m wrong, and someone actually did tell him to do that, they’re the responsible party. If he made that decision on his own, it’s called contributory negligence.

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    This would have been true sooner than this point in the regime but this event is the flashpoint, if I find out that any of my relatives or family members are ICE thugs I would dox them in a heartbeat.

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    The term “hate” can be misleading. When used in a hate crime law, the word “hate” does not mean rage, anger, or general dislike. In this context “hate” means bias against people or groups with specific characteristics that are defined by the law.

    At the federal level, hate crime laws include crimes committed on the basis of the victim’s perceived or actual race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or disability.

    Most state hate crime laws include crimes committed on the basis of race, color, and religion; many also include crimes committed on the basis of sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, and disability.

    https://www.justice.gov/hatecrimes/learn-about-hate-crimes

    Say it with me: ICE officer Jonathan Ross and his accomplices are guilty of at least murder and hate crimes, and possibly more.

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    That video is tainted. No custody of evidence. The shooter had 48 hours to edit the video.

    Sync up the video /audio to thwle dozen others and see if things line up? How much time was removed from the phone?

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      If the video conveniently “proved” his claims of self defense, you’d have a point. But it clearly doesn’t. It shows he murdered her and his claims of self defense are a blatant lie. You’re literally arguing “well maybe it was self defense because the video could have been edited by the PERPETRATOR to not show it was self defense”. Like wtf?! You’re arguing that the dude purposely edited the video to make himself look worse.

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        Pro-ICE voices (not necessarily people) think that the video supports the white house claims. The leaked site is right wing, and Vance shared it saying people should watch it.

        It’s crazy that this video seems to be such a Rorschach test.

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          Yeah I’m pretty sure their take on it is “her gay leftie lover made him feel threatened”

          Aka setting the "don’t worry, she wasn’t ‘one of us’ " distinction for the MAGAtts

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          And it would be a dumb fucking argument considering the 3-4 other videos that all corroborate this one. Stop being retarded and proposing half-assed “what-ifs”. Besides the fact that him editing it would be tampering with evidence and IS ITS OWN CRIME. Yeah, he’s just gonna admit to illegally tampering with the video to make himself look worse to create reasonable doubt… when other videos clearly show the incident as well. Ffs, I know these people are morons but you’re taking the cake.

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              Yeah, I don’t subscribe to that euphemism treadmill bullshit. Maybe save your outrage for things that are actually offensive, like our government murdering people in cold blood, not fucking words. This neutering of our language is bullshit and yes, some things are fucking retarded and need to be called out as such. Trying to defend the shooter here is fucking retarded. I stand by what I said.

              And this is why liberals hate other liberals. Were discussing a fucking murder and you’re over here complaining about language. Unless you’re this perfect idealized liberal, other liberals will take the time to bring you down instead of the much more pressing and bigger issue.

              Seriously, fuck off with this retarded fucking shit. We NEED words for when things are so ass backwards and anti-logical. I’m not gonna sit here and wish that we “unalive the meanies”. Grow a fucking spine.

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                It is immoral, ignorant, and shortsighted but i fail to see how it has anything to do with retardation. If you arent using that term clinically, which is antiquated these days anyways, then you are using it as a slur. Which is very unnecessary. I’m not mad but i do think our use of language matters. Your use of that word also makes you look shortsighted and ignorant. Your defense of it makes you also look immoral.

                Edit: my point being we already have much more descriptive words for this and the use of slurs makes you look just a ignorant as them.

                Now go make yourself useful and kill a fascist

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                  “I’m more concerned about someone’s language usage than actual issues”. That’s you, crying like a baby over a word. You sound like a retard.

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                Few arguments:

                My cousin has downs, she’s retarded, but isn’t an idiot, she’s lovely to be around. Using a word that describes something she was born with to describe the negative choices someone has made is insulting.

                We do have other words to describe when things are so back-asswards and anti-logical. Hell, make up your own completely new word, use some creativity.

                Just because there’s a larger issue, doesn’t mean we should ignore a smaller issue, especially when the smaller issue is so fucking easy to solve. It’s like not cleaning your bathroom because racism exists.

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                  And then the new word becomes taboo when someone misses that. It’s the Euphemism Treadmill. Like first sentence of my post. But obviously you’re too retarded to read that part. I don’t play that bullshit game. It’s… (wait for it)… RETARDED.

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                  And then the new word becomes taboo when someone misses that. It’s the Euphemism Treadmill. Like first sentence of my post. But obviously you’re too retarded to read that part. I don’t play that bullshit game. It’s… (wait for it)… RETARDED.

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        Im not saying the video proves innocence. It can be manipulated and still not help the officer. The fact is ICe/magazine arent the smartest people and I would challenge that video on the basis of custody alone.

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          And again, arguing custody would be arguing AGAINST the shooter. AT BEST, it would get the video thrown out and then we’d just look at the 4 other videos that all show the exact same thing. It literally doesn’t help, at all. It literally only would add a charge of tampering with evidence.