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    Oil,that’s what he means by national security. Dear Americans please get rid of that cancer you call potus. General strikes is what you can do.

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      TBF, he also means strategic expansionism. (The Arctic is playing an ever greater role in geopolitics, as the ice melts)

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      There is actual strategic value to Greenland. It is right in the line of sight between Russia and the USA. If the USA were to place a missile defence station on Greenland, they would be able to intercept Russian missiles.

      There is also some legitimate claim to the island, since the USA was the one to help the Greenlanders during and after WW2. Which is not the best claim, but it us the most recent claim of them all. All the claim Denmark has, is that there were some Danish settlers there in the 18th century. And maybe the claim that they need to atone for their inuit genocide which has helped to make Greenland self rule infeasible for now.

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        The lawfully formed government of the people asserts that they are part of Denmark whilst having the power to be independent or part of another nation if the political will exists to enact it which is ultimately what makes a country a country.

        Imagining we have any claim on it based on rendering aid almost a century ago is…kinda deranged. Also its strategic value can easily be realized as it is now via alliance.

        What cannot be realized by alliance is handing out their resources like prizes to cronies which is the actual motivation.

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        All the claim Denmark has, is that there were some Danish settlers there in the 18th century.

        So we can take over the USA because their only claim is settlers getting there in recently history?

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    This is not just Trump at this point. No American is standing up for their ally Denmark. This is disgusting and involves all Americans. Stop buying their shitty weapons.

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      No American is standing up for their ally Denmark. This is disgusting and involves all Americans.

      What? This very much does not involve all Americans.

      Most Americans despise this asshole and have no interest in invading Greenland, and plenty see it as a horrific betrayal.

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    Or, hear me out, we leave Greenland alone and mend ties with Denmark who has been a steadfast ally for decades.

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    Remember “Domino Theory”? How we were told Communism was sweeping the planet, overthrowing countries and co-opting their governments one at a time until they ran the whole show? Kinda ironic in hindsight, almost like it was projection the whole time…

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    Ah, more attempts to distract from the Epstein Files it seems

    Man has no actual intention to do anything to Greenland.

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      Stop downplaying his direct threats on another nation’s sovereignty. He has the motive and the means to do it. It’s a very real threat and ignoring it is dangerous.

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      Please stop doing his PR for him. Is it just like he didn’t really have an actual intention to deploy ICE as blackshirts? Is it like how he wasn’t really going to gut government agencies under the flimsiest excuse of “DOGE”? Is it like how he wasn’t going to go completely absurd with tariffs? Is it just like he wasn’t going to begin sinking ships, pirating oil tankers, and starting wars with nearby countries?

      Just because the guy is so incompetent his letting you see his cards before he has played them doesn’t mean he does not intend on playing them. It is signalling to Russia, China, and Saudi Arabia not only that he has them but that he will play them. This all comes from initiatives from people like the Heritage Foundation’s Luke Coffey colliding and merging with all the other agendas he sees himself benefiting from that have foreign powers freely buying his influence and pushing him towards this change in world order.

      When China invades Taiwan, when Russia begins invading other countries besides Ukraine, it is very likely the Trump administration will use this as an excuse to try to “protect” strategic interests like Canada and Greenland, which will just be the US moving in their military influence into the bases already present on their soil and then sprawling out to whatever “strategic” assets they need to “secure”, while also trying to pressure their governments into a deal like Ukraine’s. When they don’t cooperate, they will call up on their new “allies” to manufacture pressure for them while they are preoccupied trying to keep the US military locked down, likely through “Trump daddy” Mark Rutte led NATO.

      No amount of denial has ever kept wars from happening in the past.

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        Canada understands the threat, thus the boycott of all things USian and call for 300,000 civilian military.

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          USian

          Nobody uses this. In fact nobody uses an acronym and slaps ian or any other postfix to describe any group of people anywhere UAEians see how weird that is?

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              it is completely different from USian or UAEian note the actual word that is pluralized is a fucking word as opposed to an acronym!

              It’s also weird to invent such a word in the same language instead of using the correct word that planet earth and the people in question use.

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    Tiel has been pushing chat control on europe and Denmark is the forefront of making it happen. Is the greenland and chat control situation connected? Sure seems like the perfect timing. Threaten to take greenland unless pushing through laws that are universally hated by the people (which makes absolutely no sense in europe because the government and the people are supposed to be one and the same and where we generally only let insane laws pass when the US threatens sanctions which is technically not even possible on a single european country as the union is a trade union lol - but soft power, i guess).

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      *Thiel.

      No, I don’t think it’s connected, beyond the obvious: MAGA having a boner for both Greenland and the EU. Greenland has Oil btw. And will become ever more important geopolitically as the ice keeps on melting.

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    I’d truly love to see him try to do this or Canada simply because I don’t know anyone in the military that would follow those orders and I’m around a bunch of higher ranking ones. Pretty sure this would push him to impeachment. One can hope.

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      Are those the same guys that were going to stop him from deploying the national guard within the US, or the guys that wouldn’t ever pirate vessels, or fire missiles at fisherman and watch them drown?

      But yeah, I’m sure we will see some integrity from US military leadership any day now.

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        It’s never happened yet, but any day now the US military is going to become ethical and do the right thing instead of following orders.

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          Tbh I’ll believe it when I see it.

          I genuine hope I’m being overly pessimistic. But in a situation like this, nobody should plan for some deus ex machine bullshit to swoop in and make everything all better. We’re very far down a road that we cannot go back up. This will take a generation to revert and restore, at least. Likely several.

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      There is no reason to believe that the senate would actually vote to impeach. Almost 60% of current or former soldiers voted for Trump. Veteran is a synonym for traitor.

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      Oil, but also geopolitics.

      As the ice continues to melt, the Arctic will be an important (shorter) shipping root. This is already happening, and Russia is in a powerful position there.

      Of course the current administration of Greenland/Denmark/EU is also aware of this, it’s not like we’re leaving the Arctic to the Russians.