Russia and the US did not make progress toward a peace deal for Ukraine during their talks, a senior aide to Vladimir Putin has said, hours after the Russian president issued threats that Russia was ready for war with Europe.

In remarks to Russian media, Kremlin aide Yuri Ushakov said that after a five-hour meeting with Trump envoy Steve Witkoff and Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, the two sides were “neither further nor closer to resolving the crisis in Ukraine. There is a lot of work to be done.”

The downbeat assessment of Tuesday night’s diplomacy follows combative opening statements from Putin as Witkoff and Kushnerarrived for talks at the Kremlin, in which he accused European powers of sabotaging peace in Ukraine and that “European demands” on ending the war were “not acceptable to Russia”.

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    Russia wasn’t even ready to invade one of its former blocs. And that bloc has more than decimated its forces and resources.

    But hey, my grandfather got to watch Allied Europe destroy a fascist state that thought it could take over the world, now me and my son get to as well.

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        This is actually reasonable in warfare and encouraged by Sun Tzu, but once the deception is exposed, there is little advantage in clinging to it.

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          But there’s also nothing to gain by admitting and stopping the deception. As long as there’s one useful idiot who can be deceived, you cna keep it going.

          And unfortunately there’s a lot of useful idiots.

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      Except this time the fascist states are nuclear capable. The idea here is to avoid nuclear war.

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        That’s always been a lopsided proposition for Russia in this invasion. The prevailing winds blow east and they’d be poisoning themselves as much as anyone.

        You know, like Chernobyl which they also bombed.

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        They said ‘more than decimated’, so your semantic pedantry isn’t just pointless, it’s also wrong.

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      They said they would never attack Ukraine. In fact they’ve written it down and signed it.

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    Lmfao no you’re not, fuckwit. You’re deploying infantry bum rushes in appropriated civilian sedans with the doors ripped off. The Taliban has better kit than that, for fuck’s sake.

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      According to the tankies, Russia now has the largest army ever at 1.5m men and are stronger than when they started the special operation. So like they have …the cards…and not just endless meat waves. It doesn’t matter they’ve only gained inches of territory in months.

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    Russia losing to a small country and now think they can take on all of the Europe?

    We know his orange sock puppet has full on dementia, maybe Pootin needs a checkup too?

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        When Ukraine was invaded it had an army of approx 150k troops. Several hundred tanks. A couple of hundred aircraft. A couple of hundred rocket projectors.

        None of it newer than the early 90s.

        Russia had nearly a million troops, 12,000 tanks, several thousand aircraft, thousands and thousands of rocket projectors and heavy artillery.

        And nuclear weapons.

        Tell us again how they were evenly matched?

        By any normal metric, Russia should have steamrolled Ukraine. The fact it didnt, even with that huge advantage means that any major european power (UK/France/Germany/Poland) could fend them off quite easily, even alone. But we aren’t alone, Russia would be trying to take us all off the board.

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      Yeah, anyone seeing this as Putin doing jackshit is kidding themselves.

      This is about having the US attack Europe. Or maybe just Ukraine. Who knows.

      It doesn’t really matter. What matters is that the US is compromised, and Europe needs to be ready for that yesterday.

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        I don’t see an appetite in the states for war with Venezuela, a nation we’ve been conditioned to think of as godless socialists for 20+ years, let alone one with NATO allies. Trump doesn’t have unlimited power, as much as he wishes he does.

        Either way, Europe should be gearing up.

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          I concur that a fight against EU is just completely unlikely, I do think Venezuela is possible since his administration has pretty much been giving free reign and seems to have their heart set on it…

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        I don’t think having the US attack them is in the cards, but I could see them sitting such a conflict out.

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    well if Russia is as “ready” to fight Europe as it was to fight Ukraine, we have no problem

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    He says, as they are press-ganging migrants to fight on the front lines and fabricating evidence in order to seize oligarch fortunes.

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    Sounds a lot like the orange fuck stains crying, bow it make sense where he learned it. Hey trump, tru shutting the fuck up and dying, do Americans a favorite