Alleged gunman faces nine charges including second-degree murder in New York state case

Luigi Mangione is due to appear in Manhattan state court on Monday for the first day of a potentially weeklong proceeding to weigh the legality of evidence gathered during his arrest after the killing of a prominent healthcare executive.

Mangione was apprehended last December in the murder of senior United HealthCare figure Brian Thompson last December. In addition to state-level charges, he faces a Manhattan federal court case.

Thompson’s brutal slaying on the streets of New York city triggered an intense manhunt for the killer, but also sparked an outpouring of anger at the practices of the US for-profit healthcare industry. Since his arrest Mangione has attracted some enthusiastic supporters, both online and at his court appearances.

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    Mangione’s legal team has repeatedly pushed for the exclusion of evidence gathered during his arrest at an Altoona, Pennsylvania, McDonald’s restaurant on 9 December 2024. They have claimed that police, who came to the fast-food eatery based on an anonymous tip, did not immediately apprise Mangione of his constitutional rights.

    Mangione’s lawyers have argued that because he was not apprised of his rights, his statements to police should not be permitted in court. They also argue that evidence taken during his arrest should be barred, saying they conducted a “warrantless search” of Mangione’s backpack.

    This is the crux of the issue.

    Ever since the start I’ve been saying he was a suspect and they were tracking him based off of illegally obtained evidence. The whole tip was BS. Some random person (most likely cop or fed) told a fast food worker there was a reward and to call it in, then just left.

    They needed an excuse to say they found a suspect, because they found him illegally. It’s actually standard procedure called “parallel investigation”.

    But even if the call holds up, they fucked up all the evidence gathering.

    I really think he’ll get off on a technicality and trump will try to jail him anyways keep the wealthy happy

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      The way I see this going is

      Mangione wins his initial case on the issues you highlight.

      Theres a big legal slapfight.

      Ends up in front of the supreme court.

      Trump makes a public statement about how dangerous people like Mangione need to be found guilty and executed.

      Shortly after the statement, the Supreme Court abruptly declares Mangione guilty.

      Trump holds a public execution within a month. Possibly profiting off it by selling tickets to his billionaire backers.

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        Trump got dementia he isn’t going be able to say shit. But wish he would he tank the GOP for life. Lugi is popular even with Maga.

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      It’s actually standard procedure called “parallel investigation”.

      The usual jargon is “parallel construction,” in case somebody wants to look it up.

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      It’s some “eye in the sky” tech the government doesn’t want us to know they have yet. This is based purely on vibes.

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    Cops were so thirsty for a conviction they completely broke the chain of custody on their “evidence”. The whole thing should be thrown out

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      This BRUTAL ASSASSINATION of a poor little innocent ceo who definitely didn’t profit on the corpses of thousands of people who were denied healthcare specifically because of his own intentional policies. This precious baby ceo was MORDERED in COLD BLOOD by this bloodthirsty mass murdering immigrant minority who hated him because FREEDOM and the BRAVE and BOLD decision of the ceo to allow poor people to be able to CHOOSE to die via paperwork as a weapon. Surely this ceo who’s name we can’t find for some reason is smiling down on his beloved healthcare industry from the heaven that definitely exists. We hope the ultra powerful and scary mass murderer Luigi Mangione gets the JUSTICE the people of this country are clamoring for.

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      Meanwhile our president bragged on the campaign trail that he could stand in the middle of a NYC street and shoot someone and not lose any voters. We have federal agents brutally slaying innocent people on streets across the country while being treated like heroes.

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        “I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody”

        Didn’t Thompson get shot like a block away from 5th Ave?

        Why are they bothering this Luigi guy?! There’s the asshole they need to be investigating!

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    In the women’s restroom, Mangione’s supporters chatted among themselves about this proceeding.

    Truely top-tier journalism

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      That looks bad…if you take it completely out of context

      The author just added some levity while writing about his widespread support

      […] One, who sported a satiny sash emblazoned with Luigi in green, appeared to commiserate with another supporter about not being permitted to wear the prom-queen evoking accessory.

      Other accoutrements were more straightforward. One supporter wore a shirt stating: “11 minutes of missing body camera footage.”

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    Y’all need to look at the McDonald’s manager’s 911 call. She says that several customers are coming up to her and telling her it’s the guy from the shooting and then she goes on to describe him as wearing a medical mask and sunglasses, etc.

    So some guy who is mostly covered up looks like a guy who is mostly covered up? Yeah right. And you’re telling me a ton of customers recognized him? Wtf

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      It was a bullshit call, they used NSA surveillance methods to track him. I’m not normally an unhinged conspiracy theorist but this time around I’m absolutely convinced they used everything in their toolbox to track him down since he was a threat to the status quo, instead of the usual school children which the rich are more than happy to sacrifice.

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    Free Luigi! Remember Remember the 4th of December. Jail the insurance CEO’s and Shareholders for mass murder!

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    Can someone help me understand? It honestly sounds like he really did it but very well could get off on a technicality which to me is fine. I’ve had so many loved ones kicked off health care during terminal diseases and I despise for-profit model of the industry.

    But it really seems like he did it, yet I see so many people questioning that. I’m just curious why that is.

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      Basically it’s people saying:

      Prove it

      Because the government cant/won’t say how they are so sure it’s him

      Couple that with how the wealthy never face consequences in our justice system due to their ability to pay money to lawyers.

      And the fact that people want this to be decided by the letter of the law isn’t extreme by any means, it’s literally the point of law. And why people are (rightfully) outraged that they’re trying to include terrorism charges.

      It’s just the cops fucked up so much, they’re not going to be able to legally prove anything.

      It’s OJ all over again

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        Difference is OJ murdered his ex wife he regularly physically abused and her lover.

        Luigi wasn’t there to begin with. He was chilling at some other dude’s house the whole time.

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      People are questioning it because the initial CCTV pictures of the murderer do not match Mangione’s features. They look similar enough for it to be pulled in as evidence - and further supported by the items confiscated from him during his arrest, but then again people are questioning the legitimacy of those things too - but the differences are visible enough for even a mid tier lawyer to argue that the CCTV recording is not of their client.

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        He is just a fall guy because they were determined to punish someone for the crime of daring to fight back against the ruling class. Just the claim that he was found with the murder weapon and a manifesto proving motive is enough to conclude that.

        Even the most insane of murderers don’t carry around everything needed for conviction while out for lunch days later.

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      In addition to some alleged incongruity of the evidence, I think a lot of people actually think he did it but they want him to get away with it/don’t think what he did was wrong, and throwing mud in the water is a way to show support for him, albeit a somewhat disingenuous one.

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      sounds like he really did it but very well could get off on a technicality

      This is a suppression motion for unlawful search and seizure. To call this man’s 4th amendment rights a “technicality” is some Law and Order copaganda bullshit.

      These suppression motions are already very difficult to win. Mr. Mangione will have to show not only that his rights were violated, but also that the cops would not have found the evidence through a different, legal means. So if he does win, it will not be “on a technicality.” It’s just the system ensuring that everyone’s constitutional rights are respected.

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      He 100% did it, they even found the files to print his gun mod on his computer. He had no Allibi and travelled three states via bus with nothing but a bag full of $20,000.

      He did it. He did that.

      Buncha murder cultists and people who want to spread distrust in the law and push for some fantasy-like revolution are in here to stroke his fictional dick.

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    Self defense. Actually self defense plus defending his fellows. I see no crime in this. Luigi is innocent!

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          So the death of Brian Thompson saved specifically you? Sure as fuck didn’t change anything for me or people subscribed to UHC.

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            Brian Thompson had a lightsaber held up to my vagina with intent to cut me in twine.

            If that guy who obviously wasn’t Luigi Mangione hadn’t shot Thompson I’d be dead

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              No. I have heard this claim a lot and never seen any evidence of it.

              UHC coverage is worse now than it ever was, they pioneered using AI to deny claims.

              They did reverse a decision on anesthesia coverage which was in the news before that, legislators in the affected area had been hounding them nonstop, but unless they arranged a meeting, flew to the meeting, and signed the completed drafts within 24 hours of Thompson’s death: that was just coincidental.

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    Man’s innocent! The prosecutions got nothing on him, this is hardly the first time they’ve got it wrong and ruined someone’s life: LA Olympic bombing, Unabomber, anthrax postal attacks, to name a few…
    Luigi is just another in a long list of scapegoats.

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    This guy had to of known he was never getting out of prison and was likely to get a death sentence. Does it look like he gives a fuck? Sure he’ll try to win his case but this guy is prepared for the worst