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This is not okay.
This is a coup
And thus, the Night of Long Knives begins.*
Edit: The AP, as of 15 min ago has posted an update: “Dugan was taken into custody by the FBI on Friday morning on the courthouse grounds, according to U.S. Marshals Service spokesperson Brady McCarron. She appeared briefly in federal court in Milwaukee later Friday before being released from custody. Her next court appearance is May 15.”
Thank goodness, she has been released- even if she is still going on trial for a trumped-up charge.
The problem with the MAGA/Nazi comparison is not that MAGA isn’t as evil, it’s that they’re less competent.
And why is that a problem? It sounds like a hindrance to them, which is a definite good thing.
Stupid is not the same as harmless. They routinely harm themselves gleefully. They can’t comprehend the full consequences of their own actions. That makes them dangerous.
I didn’t say they were harmless. I said their incompetence only helps their opposition.
The Nazis were more competent and still lost. How would being less competent than that help them in any way?
They are causing generational damage to the country. Just because their incompetence doesn’t help them doesn’t mean it isn’t still hurting us. That’s the opposite of helping.
Again, I never said they weren’t causing harm. You’re conflating the concepts of aid and beneficence.
Trump and his ilk being in power is not beneficial to the country, but their sheer stupidity in attempting to achieve their goals aids their opposition in stopping them.
And you’re not understanding the type of harm idiots do as opposed to smart evil people. Take immigration. A smart evil person might revoke visas and deport illegal aliens for small things not previously done. They could do this while shielding themselves legally by working within the constraints of the law. The opposition would be powerless because they stay within the law. These ass clowns are deporting legal aliens to countries they have been explicitly protected from being sent to, detaining US born citizens, threatening to deport people to countries they have no connection to, and myriad other completely illegal and unconstitutional things. In a perfect world the opposition could hold them accountable in court. But the opposition is still trying to fight “fair” and twiddling their fucking thumbs.
So this abso-fucking-lutely is not a good scenario because they are stupid. Way more harm is being done and the opposition isn’t doing a fucking thing.
Loading my firearms as we speak
It’s like a program and it concerns me.
Do you mean pogrom?
Please remember: the ICE “arrests” are KIDNAPPINGS BY NON-UNIFORMED CIVILIANS. UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE.
If you see a gang of 4 dudes with beards and guns and jeans and polo shirts … treat it like the kidnapping it is.
I get your sentiment and feel the same way, but that’s just adding death to the equation. I honestly think that is exactly what they want. If they detain you, you still have access to lawyers and others who are working to protect these people. If you’re dead, you can’t to any of that. You can’t defend yourself. The action alone will make you a ‘terrorist’ and therefore justify their actions.
It fucking sucks.
If they detain you, you still have access to lawyers and others who are working to protect these people.
Have you been skipping the news for weeks?
No. There are plenty of lawyers and groups (ACLU) working to get these people to a judge. Hell, even the Supreme Court ruled that the deportations must stop to give them due process.
Are they following those orders? I don’t think so.
But to say that there aren’t people fighting for these people is just flat out, blatantly and categorically wrong.
How does Muhmud Khalil have a lawyer if what I said was wrong?
Have you been skipping the news for weeks?
You seem to be choosing the few people who were able to get a lawyer in time… In your hypothetical, that is not guaranteed or even something I’d bet on. And you are also pointing out that they won’t obey judges orders anyways so… I’m very confused as to what argument you think you are making.
Anyone who sees anyone being kidnapped should do their civic duty to stop it. Just because it suddenly seems to be government representatives that are doing the kidnapping now does not change that. You don’t know which it is.
I do wonder how many people have already been disappeared with no cameras around and they are just “missing” according to their families who can’t/don’t want to go to the cops in case it was the cops all along.
access to lawyers
I don’t believe it would work out that way if you are detained and don’t already have numbers lined up. They are already skipping due process anyway…
I don’t want violence. I just want to remind people that these are illegal government kidnappings.
It. Fucking. Sucks. Indeed.
You have access to lawyers???
Not a single person that I’m aware of that got shipped off to El Salvador had a fair trial. This isn’t the US you know anymore. You don’t get a trial if they don’t want you to have one.
If an ICE agent dies they can’t harm anyone else
It would be great to see people stand up to these kidnappings. Maybe even some good guys with guns
Senators, governors, and mayors of “sanctuaries” are going to be close behind.
Once the non-loyal judges are imprisoned, everyone else who isn’t white and Republican will also be on the chopping block.
I wonder if militias need to grow because I believe Trump will use everything in his power to destroy the liberals and any opposing force. Military could soon fraction and people will take sides, as one party wants to protect the constitution while the others oppose. Remeber our country was born based on the constitution…We are on the right side of history cause it reflects core American values. You decide to errode that then your not a true American. They will always be traitors considering they are freely defying the constitution now…fuck them and I cant wait til their day comes.
So they have arrested two judges. ICE and FBI are traitors.
People should start reporting illegal immigrant MA13 members at the homes or Republican officials
I said this before…when the fuck do we rise up? Or are we going to sit in the pot and boil?
I blame the “fuck you got mine” mentality that’s become ingrained in Americans. A revolution requires selflessness but Americans aren’t equipped for that.
Agreed, things haven’t been good for years. But since Covid this country went from “we the people” to “me, me, me.”
Where the hell have you been for the last few years? Americans won’t do shit. The tech oligarchy and the facists have the population exactly where they want them to be, struggling and unable to take actions.
when the fuck do we rise up?
As long as there’s an internet to keep the keyboard warriors happy enough to just complain about it online and then walk away feeling like they’re part of the resistance?
Never.
And the moment there is an uprising, you’ve just given Trump his reason to secure a third term. So, there’s that.
From where I see it- the only way to fight this is to create a functional time machine and go back and tell the ninety one million people smooth-brained dipshits that sitting their asses and whining about genocide in a country they couldn’t have even pointed to on a map a year and a half ago- would result in everything happening now.
This was avoidable.
And now we have to contend with the possibility of having to participate in an absolute shitshow of a bloodbath as the only means to regain the freedoms we had just a few months ago?
I honestly don’t know who’s worse; the far left protest voting- dumbasses that helped put us here, or the far right MAGA voting dumbasses that wanted to put us here.
Trump’s Night of the long knives coming next
I know trumpers won’t ever hear about this or if they do it will be a completely twisted story and they’ll think the judge shot at the ice agents or something but the amount of mental effort it has to take to not see this as a tinpot dictator move is unbelievable. It’s hard to believe people this dumb walk among us and go to work and everything
F B I⚡️⚡️My local branch of the ICE Enforcement and Removal division is not answering calls. It rings and rings without end.
Onward we march in goose step with history
So what do we do… We know what the response should be… but are we gonna do it…
No, you won’t.
There will be some soft protestations, admittedly in huge numbers, but that will be it. Then you’ll accept this as normal.It will get worse and worse over the years and a lot of you will be looking around for someone else to do something, which won’t happen.
Then in 2028, though probably earlier, OrangeCunt will declare himself president for life and you’ll all again look around for other people to “sort it all out”. However there will be no one left to do anything as they will have been arrested, scared off, or paid off etc.
Then you’ll realise that you’ve been taken over by the weakest, stupidest schoolyard bully in history. And you’ll be the laughing stock on a global scale.Yet all of this could have been avoided if he had been arrested and put in to court for the treasonous shit in 2021.
Hell, it still can be avoided now, but it’ll take the average American to have a backbone and get out there and fight. Which also won’t happen.Tldr… and don’t pretend you know anything about me from some vague comments online. You live in your fear and stay paralyzed believing everyone will and live in your shame of being a coward. It won’t be me.
Firstly, the ‘you’ in all this isn’t you specifically. It’s the average American.
Secondly, speaking of average Americans, I’m not one of them. I’m not even from that continent.
No, I’m an average guy who simply cannot believe what ‘you’ -the American people- have let taken over them and their country.
I could actually believe an evil genius doing it. But not a simpleton like tRUMP, it boggles the mind.Thirdly, you “tl;dr’d”…well if you can’t be bothered to actually read for 1 minute in a post then, and maybe I’m wrong, but I doubt you’re the type to get out and fight for your country. Maybe you’ll do a small protestation and then look around for other people to do something is more your thing…
Again… tldr nor will i entertain your cowardice. You stay scared… i have been out in the streets… i am still out in the streets and i will be in the streets until they pull my cold dead body out after fighting…
What are you doing, scolding strangers on the internet to feel better about yourself staying home doing nothing… You’re pathetic, not me. 🥰
Cheers traitor…
Tl;dr yank sad cunt
Hannah Dugan 2028
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