• I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    I’ve seen like half a dozen articles asking questions like this in the last week.

    Money.

    The answer is money.

    The answer has always been money.

    The answer will always be money.

    There is no point in asking this question because everyone already knows it’s money.

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    Because extremely rich people have gotten extremely much richer and they still want more

    They dont give a shit if the world blows up. They think they have money, they think their money will save them, they think they can build their zombie fortress and they’ll be fine

    They won’t, of course but that is besides the point

    Then here are the tech bros who think that just another datacenter will for sure give us real AI that will magically solve all our problems tomorrow, just give us a few billion dollars more, it will surely work this time bro! And politicians, the idiots that they all are, actually listen to that, and believe it.

    Then there are the dumb votes who hear climate change and hear “tax raising” because of course they’re right because instead of taking the billions from the billionaire donors, politicians will just have the poor pay for whatever fix, just as we, the people had to get rid of straws because that will fix it, just as we the people will have to start paying.kore for food and and and…

    Instead we need only one fucking politician in charge who is willing to cap net worth at 10 million dollars. After that, all your income goes to taxes. Companies must be capped at a billion dollars networth. Anything over that, 100% to tax.

    THAT will give a good income that can be used for a great socialist framework with free healthcare, free housing, free education, free all the basics, maybe even UBI. THAT will give governments the money to invest in climate change but also invest in thousands more smaller companies that can innovate instead of resting on brand recognition.

    Fuck the rich and powerful, they must ALL be stripped down to normal levels of we want to survive

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    The real question is what are 99.9999% of the humans that can’t decide about this going to do about this?

    The politicians obviously don’t give a shit, they had well over a 100 years (not even kidding , earth warming due to CO2 was already know about in the 1899s somewhere) to know about this and do something about this.

    They didn’t do anything, being more interested in their donors and being reelected

    The billionaires literally are spending a million times the amount of CO2 that a normal person does

    So what is the rest of us going to do while they literally are setting fire to the only world in the fucking universe that ever had life, as far as we know anyway?

    I mean seriously, how am I bit supposed to see then as a threat to the survival of the human race, or for that matter, my own? My wife’s? My children?

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    Cause we are facing global economic hardship, which is partially due to climate change.

    This is the sad part, most people’s priority is their standard of living so when economic hardship happens, they double down on short term thinking.

    This is why climate action needs to go hand in hand with economic reform so most people’s life gets better as we go towards solar punk.

    In theory the rich who have horded all that wealth could benefit humanity if that wealth becomes our piggy bank to fix things.

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    No one’s willing to go first and put themselves at a competitive disadvantage. It needs to be uniform action. And without the US willing to participate it’ll be as slow as molasses.

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      This is the reason that every billionaire rails against a scary “new world order” or “one world government” or just the UN doing its job… They don’t want to actually be held to anything.

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    There will be movement after the first half a billion people starve to death, and when the environment forces another billion or so to move.

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      Technically true, but you don’t need to help the pro-climate catastrophe people (it’s wild that those people exist BTW) use “We shouldn’t bother to get better until they get better” to influence policy. Don’t be a crab. For what it’s worth, India burns less coal per capita than the US and China is blowing everyone else out of the water on advancing solar power and electric vehicles.

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      Isn’t China doing better than the rest of the world in steering to renewables (which have their own issues)? The real problem isn’t what we’re burning, it’s the demand. It keeps going up, so even advances in better energy sources dwindle in their growth compared to the total need. But reducing demand is antithesis to a good economy, so we aren’t even considering that. Must tech out of this! (Not working so far)

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        China is the only major country still building new coal power. The UK, meanwhile, closed its last coal plant in 2024.

        The US needs to give up on drill-baby-drill. Germany needs to stop closing perfectly functional nuclear plants. The US especially needs to get out of car-based infrastructure, though even Europe isn’t ideal.

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      This is a classssic Right/Big Oil bot talking point. Why do you think the climate is where it is now? What is the main country that has pushed so much CO2 into the atmosphere in the last 80 years that we’re even talking about this?

      Yes, China, India and others need to reduce fossil fuel production and usage. But this talking point is typically used as API propaganda to push the blame elsewhere. Also where is that demand coming from? Again, it’s America and the West.

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          But the implication by omission in your first comment is a literal talking point of API. It’s their entire thing. Just distract from implementing any real change by pointing to other countries. You can say that, but in the same post you should explicitly call out the entire other side of the coin.

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              In a vacuum you can say whatever you want, but in today’s media environment with bad actors and bots all over, posting anonymously online to repeat Big Oil talking points requires additional context. Nothing you’re saying is factually incorrect, but it just so happens to align with propaganda strategies.

              That’s what makes it so effective as propaganda, they can hide behind “it’s not incorrect, it’s just facts” but the implication (and they’ve openly parroted it all over) is that everything is the fault of India and China and therefore we shouldn’t be trying to decarbonize and move away from fossil fuels.

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      Don’t forget China needs to stop using cement! We can use it though of course.

      And all those 3rd world countries aren’t allowed sidewalks!

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      Phew! Almost thought we should do something. Luckily I can just play video games whilst we wait for China and Indie to their act together