As the impact of global warming becomes more obvious, you might expect countries to step up climate action and preparation, but we’re seeing the opposite happen
Technically true, but you don’t need to help the pro-climate catastrophe people (it’s wild that those people exist BTW) use “We shouldn’t bother to get better until they get better” to influence policy. Don’t be a crab. For what it’s worth, India burns less coal per capita than the US and China is blowing everyone else out of the water on advancing solar power and electric vehicles.
India burns substantially less than double the US. Even if that wasn’t the case, trying to lay the blame on other countries is textbook crab mentality. That’s problematic even before you get to the callous narcissism of “Yeah, we burned coal when we were developing, but it’s wrong now so you cant. Good luck developing! We’re rooting for you to do it the right way!”
This is a classssic Right/Big Oil bot talking point. Why do you think the climate is where it is now? What is the main country that has pushed so much CO2 into the atmosphere in the last 80 years that we’re even talking about this?
Yes, China, India and others need to reduce fossil fuel production and usage. But this talking point is typically used as API propaganda to push the blame elsewhere. Also where is that demand coming from? Again, it’s America and the West.
But the implication by omission in your first comment is a literal talking point of API. It’s their entire thing. Just distract from implementing any real change by pointing to other countries. You can say that, but in the same post you should explicitly call out the entire other side of the coin.
In a vacuum you can say whatever you want, but in today’s media environment with bad actors and bots all over, posting anonymously online to repeat Big Oil talking points requires additional context. Nothing you’re saying is factually incorrect, but it just so happens to align with propaganda strategies.
That’s what makes it so effective as propaganda, they can hide behind “it’s not incorrect, it’s just facts” but the implication (and they’ve openly parroted it all over) is that everything is the fault of India and China and therefore we shouldn’t be trying to decarbonize and move away from fossil fuels.
Isn’t China doing better than the rest of the world in steering to renewables (which have their own issues)? The real problem isn’t what we’re burning, it’s the demand. It keeps going up, so even advances in better energy sources dwindle in their growth compared to the total need. But reducing demand is antithesis to a good economy, so we aren’t even considering that. Must tech out of this! (Not working so far)
China is the only major country still building new coal power. The UK, meanwhile, closed its last coal plant in 2024.
The US needs to give up on drill-baby-drill. Germany needs to stop closing perfectly functional nuclear plants. The US especially needs to get out of car-based infrastructure, though even Europe isn’t ideal.
Ok I’ve had fun so I guess I’ll try to educate you.
You’ve fallen for right wing talking points blaming China for climate change. Notice how they hone in a singular talking point while ignoring everything else? They don’t talk about carbon, they try to take a singular point coal.
Sort by emissions per capita and see where countries line up. US #16, China #25. India #125.
That’s not to say that coal is fine. But when you hone in on that singular talking point and blame CHINA and oh yeah INDIA bad countries why are they so bad bad bad, then you’ve fallen for right wing Fox news screaming “CHINA’S COALL!”
PS watch for them blaming cement use too, which of course developing countries will use more of.
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Technically true, but you don’t need to help the pro-climate catastrophe people (it’s wild that those people exist BTW) use “We shouldn’t bother to get better until they get better” to influence policy. Don’t be a crab. For what it’s worth, India burns less coal per capita than the US and China is blowing everyone else out of the water on advancing solar power and electric vehicles.
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India burns substantially less than double the US. Even if that wasn’t the case, trying to lay the blame on other countries is textbook crab mentality. That’s problematic even before you get to the callous narcissism of “Yeah, we burned coal when we were developing, but it’s wrong now so you cant. Good luck developing! We’re rooting for you to do it the right way!”
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This is a classssic Right/Big Oil bot talking point. Why do you think the climate is where it is now? What is the main country that has pushed so much CO2 into the atmosphere in the last 80 years that we’re even talking about this?
Yes, China, India and others need to reduce fossil fuel production and usage. But this talking point is typically used as API propaganda to push the blame elsewhere. Also where is that demand coming from? Again, it’s America and the West.
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But the implication by omission in your first comment is a literal talking point of API. It’s their entire thing. Just distract from implementing any real change by pointing to other countries. You can say that, but in the same post you should explicitly call out the entire other side of the coin.
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In a vacuum you can say whatever you want, but in today’s media environment with bad actors and bots all over, posting anonymously online to repeat Big Oil talking points requires additional context. Nothing you’re saying is factually incorrect, but it just so happens to align with propaganda strategies.
That’s what makes it so effective as propaganda, they can hide behind “it’s not incorrect, it’s just facts” but the implication (and they’ve openly parroted it all over) is that everything is the fault of India and China and therefore we shouldn’t be trying to decarbonize and move away from fossil fuels.
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I can see you’re not absorbing what I’m saying, so… ok
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Isn’t China doing better than the rest of the world in steering to renewables (which have their own issues)? The real problem isn’t what we’re burning, it’s the demand. It keeps going up, so even advances in better energy sources dwindle in their growth compared to the total need. But reducing demand is antithesis to a good economy, so we aren’t even considering that. Must tech out of this! (Not working so far)
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China is the only major country still building new coal power. The UK, meanwhile, closed its last coal plant in 2024.
The US needs to give up on drill-baby-drill. Germany needs to stop closing perfectly functional nuclear plants. The US especially needs to get out of car-based infrastructure, though even Europe isn’t ideal.
Don’t forget China needs to stop using cement! We can use it though of course.
And all those 3rd world countries aren’t allowed sidewalks!
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Yeah China bad bad bad bad bad! CHINANNNAA!!
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You forgot the cement use!! CHINA BAD FOR USING CEMENT!1!
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Ok I’ve had fun so I guess I’ll try to educate you.
You’ve fallen for right wing talking points blaming China for climate change. Notice how they hone in a singular talking point while ignoring everything else? They don’t talk about carbon, they try to take a singular point coal.
Here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions_per_capita
Sort by emissions per capita and see where countries line up. US #16, China #25. India #125.
That’s not to say that coal is fine. But when you hone in on that singular talking point and blame CHINA and oh yeah INDIA bad countries why are they so bad bad bad, then you’ve fallen for right wing Fox news screaming “CHINA’S COALL!”
PS watch for them blaming cement use too, which of course developing countries will use more of.
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Phew! Almost thought we should do something. Luckily I can just play video games whilst we wait for China and Indie to their act together
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