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      I wonder if the issue is that AIs just have no idea how to draw a clock. Or, is it that they’ve been trained on papers where doctors talk about the various issues patients sometimes have when drawing clocks.

      I suspect it’s probably the first one. AIs seem to have a real problem with anything visually complicated. One of the easiest ways to spot AI slop is to look at the logos on t-shirts.

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        AI run on statistical probability. The more options there are in something, the harder it is to get right. A clock face becomes hard because practically the entire clock changes from moment to moment, and logos on shirts are similar in that they’re largely all in the same place but vary dramatically in shape to be as distinct from each other as possible, which is basically the exact opposite of what an AI wants. When your whole thing is basically averaging stuff out on a probability curve that’s weighted towards specific keywords, having massive variation in your data points is bad.

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          Yeah and some clocks have a second hand and some don’t sometimes clocks use roman numerals sometimes they’re arabic numerals, and that’s if it can understand based on context if someone saying just “clock” in the data the scraped is referring to a digital clock or an analog clock.

          In general LLMs don’t understand logic, though I suspect they have given some of them ability to run some code validation logic (that’s not actually AI) when you tell it to generate code in some languages. I say this because I’ve had it produce some code that could compile, but it seemingly put some example code into a function and had some other example code that needed to call that function with another parameter so it just created a third function that accepts the additional parameter and calls the first function (throwing away that parameter). It compiles but doesn’t have any understanding of how stupid that is on a logical level. So it seems like it’s just trying stuff until it’s capable of compiling without there being any understanding of how anything works.

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        I remember studying this (the illness, not the show) in psychology. Something like wernickes aphasisa? Or maybe brochas aphasisa?

        Your brain fails to process like the left half of what it’s seeing, so they draw clocks only showing the left half with so the numbers there.

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      I was assuming they saw the post here a couple of days ago and screenshotted or got the idea from there

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    That might be a good thing for all the gen alphas who can’t read a clock. There are a lot of them.

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      When I see these generation-hating comments — specifically older generations hating on something the younger generations do — I can’t help but think about whose fault it is for whatever slight the older generation feels.

      Who created digital clocks? Who created iPads and iPhones? Who created video games? Every single generation has their own slang that each previous generation fails to understand (not because it doesn’t make sense, but because the previous generations are too lazy and/or stubborn to learn).

      /soapbox

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        Yeah but it’s sad that you’ll never appreciate the aesthetic of a good analog watch face. Every kid I see with a smartwatch uses a digital face.

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          i’m less concerned with the loss of an aesthetic and more concerned with a transformation around how time is perceived entirely. when we made the shift from sundials to 12 hour clocks, it was part of an industrial revolution that saw the workers go from taking life day by day with a greater degree of flexibility to highly regimented and dehumanizing subsegments of time. now we’ve gone from the largest unit of time we display being 12 hours to 1 hour. we feel a constant state of disconnection from the moments that got us to this moment and a lack of concern about the future moments as our environments are further degraded.

          i’m less worried about millenials, gen z, and gen alpha not liking rolexes than i am about our constantly grinded down state of being. we percieve time differently than the generations that came before us and it makes us feel isolated and like everything is moving too fast. and much of the wisdom about how to transition from a colonial society to a post colonial society is to collectively slow down and i don’t know how capable we are of that as we lose the slow sweeping hour hand displaying a fractional time rather than a number constantly climbing but always displaying an exact timestamp rather than a set of portions