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The Picard Maneuver@piefed.world to Microblog Memes@lemmy.worldEnglish · 3 days ago

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The Picard Maneuver@piefed.world to Microblog Memes@lemmy.worldEnglish · 3 days ago
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    I would say that the US is a very weird place, but then I remembered that this

    is the flagship of the British Navy First British Sea Lord. She hasn’t floated for literally 100 years.

    So mostly I guess it’s just that militaries are weird.

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      but what about ceremonial anime swords in the US military?

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        I’d like to know more

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          https://www.twz.com/25409/the-usaf-uses-huge-swords-fit-for-he-man-and-the-thundercats-to-honor-officers

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          The state is an evil, goofy religion.

          More info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

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          Me too

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            https://www.twz.com/25409/the-usaf-uses-huge-swords-fit-for-he-man-and-the-thundercats-to-honor-officers

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      The USS Constitution is still fully crewed, floats, and occasionally fires a few cannon shots.

      Keeping history around isn’t weird. Though I do think it should be contextualized.

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        The Constitution is also the only ship in the current U.S. fleet to have sunk an enemy vessel, having defeated and burnt HMS Java in 1813.

        Her nearest competition was decommissioned in 2015.

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          Used today primarily for ceremonial and educational purposes, only 10–15 percent of the frigate actually dates to the original construction due to centuries of repairs and restorations.

          The USS Theseus?

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          You’re telling me no ship in the current fleet besides that old ship has sunk an enemy vessel?

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            I guess it’s because technically the US hasn’t been at war since WW2, and so ships sunk since then were not considered enemy ships. Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Gulf, and Iraq were all technically not wars but just “special military operations” or whatever. Where do you think Putin gets most of his aspirations and ideas?

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              The last ship to sink an enemy vessel was the USS Simpson in the 1988 Iran-Iraq war, which retired in 2015. Every conflict after has not had any naval combat resulting in a loss of vessel.

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                That’s very surprising to me. Do they not count random pirate boats and so, or did they really sink no vessels at all since then?

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                  I think many of the actions have been against what are considered non-state actors. So I think it’s just what’s considered an “enemy vessel”

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                  They do not count anti-pirate operations, the US Navy has never counted anti-pirate operations.

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              What about all those Venezuelan ships?

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            They focus mainly on murdering innocent civilians.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

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        Ah, I’m mostly joking. Victory is a really cool museum, almost as cool as the wreck of the Mary Rose that’s displayed in a building next to her.

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        Seeing her out of her slip is kind of weird. She was accompanied on either side by tug boats, like an elderly person escorted by nurses or family members fearful they may fall over.

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          US Navy sails the Constitution up to a Russian submarine.

          Fires full broadside.

          Refuses to elaborate.

          Leaves.

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            Ukraine credited with sinking another Russian submarine

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      Militaries see a lot of value in convincing their members that they’ll be remembered after dying.

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        Some good things have happened because people sacrificed themselves for the greater good.

        Do I wish this wasn’t necessary? Fucking of course.

        But history doesn’t repeat itself so much as humans just don’t change.

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          deleted by creator

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          I’ll assume that you’re talking about Luigi Mangione (allegedly) and move on.

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            I was thinking of some of the Revolutionary War soldiers, actually and the allies fighting Nazi Germany.

            Not really sure where Luigi came from.

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          Some good things have happened because people sacrificed themselves for the greater good.

          We’re talking about the US here. It’s mostly about the greed, slavery, oil or invading farmers.

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      Small correction: The HMS Victory is the flagship of the First Sea Lord. The current Royal Navy Fleet Flagship is the aircraft carrier HMS Prince of Wales.

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      Every state is based on total bullshit. That’s part of why the state is garbage.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_religion

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      The fleet flagship of the Royal Navy is currently HMS Prince of Wales.

      The Royal Navy flagship is HMS Excellent (which is an island, not a ship).

      Victory is the flagship of the First Sea Lord, and also has the largest crew of any vessel in the navy, as personnel are assigned to her on paper by default until transferred to an active unit.

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      Is she not beautiful? Do her curves offend your insecure masculine sensibilities?

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        She’s too beautiful. So beautiful in fact, that I am now banned from Portsmouth Historic Dockyard.

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          For shame, for she has many suitors but not nearly enough who will polish her portholes

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      Yeah that’s weird. You gotta keep your wooden boats in the water like we do. Our navy owns a forest for repairing our stupid wooden ship

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        When they took our wooden boat out of the water it turned out that she’d hogged by around 500mm. Which is quite a lot for a boat. In fairness, she was 150 years old by that point.

        Now there’s a vast system of hydraulic rams supporting her in the dry dock, to the point that they reckon she’s better supported now than when she was afloat.

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