Sen. Bernie Sanders told CBS News he's "very disappointed" by the bill to end the government shutdown, calling a planned vote on health insurance subsidies "meaningless."
I really wish Bernie would enter the presidential as an independent. Not necessarily as the presidential pick but maybe as VP, given his age. Although if you see how the annoying orange has been doing recently I think Bernie could take over even in 4 years from now and be better.
Perhaps. Or he could rally a whole bunch of the republican voters to vote for him as well. At this point you’re basically choosing between 2 evils every election, the borderline nazi evil and the complacent evil. Either one is not getting things done the way they should and maybe a solid 3rd candidate could change that.
Dude we’ve been down this fucking road. Stop trying to pry away the fucking Republican voter. They will vote in line, even if it means voting for an orange child rapist.
We need to move the Democratic party left the way the tea party did the fascist push to the Republican party.
Our two party system sucks, but it’s not getting fixed anytime soon, so use the tools we have.
Primary every fucking Democrat with a true liberal and get rid of the old guard.
Go ahead and try but I think moving the dems back to their position during Obama’s presidency will take a mammoth effort by itself, let alone moving them to Mamdani levels of leftism. I would love to see it happen but the rot runs deep, especially at the top. There are so many dems that are heavily entrenched in their positions and as you can see, it only takes a few dems (9 if you include Schumer who most likely came up with this “deal”) to ruin the party holding out in hope of better things.
As bad as the Democratic have been they are far less harmful and already have a sizable voter base.
Some voters will enthusiastically vote for the 3rd party, while other will prefer the 3rd party but vote Democratic because they don’t have faith that the 3rd party will get enough votes and they feel their vote will be “wasted” by voting for them.
I do think a 3rd party would have a better chance slowly taking over congress and the Senate by running candidates in select districts that are strongly left wing. This would also force both the dems and Republicans to make concessions to this 3rd party in order to get enough votes for laws and legislation.
I really wish Bernie would enter the presidential as an independent. Not necessarily as the presidential pick but maybe as VP, given his age. Although if you see how the annoying orange has been doing recently I think Bernie could take over even in 4 years from now and be better.
I fear that by doing that it would split the left vote. Resulting in more easy Republican victories.
Calling democrats “the left” is a bit funny…
For the American Overton window. Of course they’re more right wing when viewed in the light of European or even Canadian political sphere.
Or Asian sphere. Or South American sphere. Pretty much we’re the crazies.
Perhaps. Or he could rally a whole bunch of the republican voters to vote for him as well. At this point you’re basically choosing between 2 evils every election, the borderline nazi evil and the complacent evil. Either one is not getting things done the way they should and maybe a solid 3rd candidate could change that.
Dude we’ve been down this fucking road. Stop trying to pry away the fucking Republican voter. They will vote in line, even if it means voting for an orange child rapist.
We need to move the Democratic party left the way the tea party did the fascist push to the Republican party.
Our two party system sucks, but it’s not getting fixed anytime soon, so use the tools we have.
Primary every fucking Democrat with a true liberal and get rid of the old guard.
The time for that was 2016. A lot of MAGA were initially Bernie Bros. The Democrats destroyed that bridge.
Personally, I’m putting my political energy into arenas where actual change is possible. I’m done simping for capitalists.
Go ahead and try but I think moving the dems back to their position during Obama’s presidency will take a mammoth effort by itself, let alone moving them to Mamdani levels of leftism. I would love to see it happen but the rot runs deep, especially at the top. There are so many dems that are heavily entrenched in their positions and as you can see, it only takes a few dems (9 if you include Schumer who most likely came up with this “deal”) to ruin the party holding out in hope of better things.
As bad as the Democratic have been they are far less harmful and already have a sizable voter base.
Some voters will enthusiastically vote for the 3rd party, while other will prefer the 3rd party but vote Democratic because they don’t have faith that the 3rd party will get enough votes and they feel their vote will be “wasted” by voting for them.
I do think a 3rd party would have a better chance slowly taking over congress and the Senate by running candidates in select districts that are strongly left wing. This would also force both the dems and Republicans to make concessions to this 3rd party in order to get enough votes for laws and legislation.
If only there were a way to ask voters what they would do in hypothetical scenarios, ahead of time