It sounds like a bunch of Democrats want to cave in exchange for no concessions whatsoever. Edit: Bloomberg has more details
Current likely Democratic votes for this:
- Shaheen - NH
- Hassan - NH
- King - ME
- Fetterman - PA
- Peters - MI
- Durbin - IL
- Warner - VA
- Kaine - VA
- Ossoff- GA
- Warnock - GA
If you want to change things, you need to call their DC office NOW, and leave an email if you can’t.
Edit 2: enough Democrats joined the Republicans to reopen the government with no real concessions.
The list:
- Durbin
- Hassan
- King
- Cortez Masto
- Kaine
- Shaheen
- Rosen
- Fetterman
- Schumer
- Gillibrand
There was a caucus meeting right before this, so the bulk of the Senate Democrats were likely OK with giving in, even if not willing to vote for it in public
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For those paying attention. It ended when the FAA started to ground private planes due to staffing shortages.
Those mega donors are the ones who pressured the vote. Not for the good of society. But because they started to get inconvenienced.
Fetterman is a disgrace I flipping hate this dude
Hes not your enemy. If you’re a constituent, he is your employee. Give his office a call and let them know how you expect him to perform.
Hes not your enemy. If you’re a constituent, he is your employee.
Those are not mutually exclusive. You could say the same thing about Trump, who is simultaneously the president of the US, and an enemy to the US.
I mean, do call the fucker, but he is 100% a traitor and an enemy to our country.
It’s not like I can tell him not to come into work on Monday and hire someone else
He is a disgrace and a disappointment. But, who was he running against? Oz. Oz didn’t even live in the state who and was more pro-Trump than Fetterman the time. So, the choice was between overtly pro-Trump Oz who was living in New Jersey or Pa-living Fetterman who wasn’t overtly pro-Trump until after the stroke.
I hate the Democrats so so much. They never fight. Every time it looks like they might fight, it turns out that they’re not fighting. Their relentless cowardice is why we have trump and the fascists dismantling everything and hurting people.
Once again pulling defeat out of the jaws of victory. All they had to do was literally nothing, but they couldn’t even be trusted to do that.
Schumer is the hand of satan himself.
He organized this whole thing, he got the votes, he set the agenda and then guess what he did at the last minute. Just fucking guess.
He voted against the continuing resolution and washed his hands of it so the accountability doesn’t land on him. He wanted his fat stack to spend on his gold-plated spectacles or coffin or whatever the fuck these ancient liches are planning on doing with all this wealth.
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You mean these Dems are in cahoots with the GOP. There’s no fucking reason why to back down now when the pressure is on unless their handlers are telling them to.
Absolutely fucking pathetic
Every time I said they would buckle, I was downvoted. The Democratic party as an institute is not on our side, they use rhetoric to pacify us and prevent a full on revolution that’s well overdue.
Wow it’s almost like we know how they work and their brainwashed sycophants were conditioned to disagree with any criticism of their party.
The ratchet effect with a massively shifted Overton window as made telling the truth become violence to the state.
I don’t understand what the calculation was here. People were hurting, but a whole lot more people are going to hurt without health insurance come next year. They got:
- a vote on healthcare extension in December: almost certain to fail and even if succeeding, open enrollment ends 12/15. So you’d potentially be making people gamble thousands of dollars per month that this unlikely vote succeeds and effects them immediately
- written into the law that federal employees get back pay - which is already federal law
- reverses lay offs that occurred during the shut down - which were illegal
- it only funds the government through January. So we’re going to be right back in this situation. And then what - we tell these poor SNAP recipients, “oh sorry, we’re going to need you to go though this whole thing again because we wanted to make sure people could fly home for thanksgiving.”
Hard to imagine a moderate winning a national primary after this. And what the hell is the republican answer for why it was so important that people not get slightly more affordable healthcare that it was worth starving people.
I hope that at the least, the re-establishment of SNAP will be quick.
And what the hell is the republican answer for why it was so important that people not get slightly more affordable healthcare that it was worth starving people.
Immigrants. It was always immigrants. They repeatedly blamed it on immigrants “stealing” tax payer money thru ACA even tho that’s not really possible except for extreme circumstances that typically account for less than 1% of the funding for the program.
Immigrants. It was always immigrants.
That was the cover story, they are just continuing to milk Trump’s base for mandate to empty the coffers. There was a lot of money in the ACA tax credits.
I’m sure though that they’re going to put that reallocated money to good use for families. Sure of it. Any day now.
Surely they know that’s not true though (even if they won’t admit it publicly). I just don’t see what the real human rational is. Cut money so you can give more tax breaks to the wealthy? Like how can someone be so callous. How do you justify that to yourself?
They believe the “proper” stewards of society are the wealthy. In order for the wealthy to make the best of things, they need that money, so low taxes.
But the wealthy need something else, a desperate working class that will do anything the wealthy says just so they can eat and have some chance at things like decent healthcare. One of their favorite refrains is “nobody wants to work anymore”, and in part they blame government assistance for this perceived lack of workers or workers that are so uppity as to demand a living wage.
Of course desperate people can do something other than nicely do the things the wealthy tell them to. So that’s where “law and order” principles come in. Make a big authoritarian police force to discourage the more dangerous path that mass desperation can cause.
This was just a blatant act against the American people by people who’s motivation is money and power and the self-delusion thinking they’re doing more good than harm by preserving the status-quo of letting Republicans shit all over our nation.
SNAPs benefits max out around 300 bucks a month for an average family.
The healthcare premiums that these same families are likely relying on will go up between that much and a thousand goddamn dollars a month, or more. I’m already being told by my company that premiums will go up $1000 more by January. What are they supposed to do if they need insulin or other drugs? This is evil, this is an act of hatred against every family and taxpayer. Countless people are going to die because of Schumer and his cronies.
it only funds the government through January. So we’re going to be right back in this situation.
They’ll use budget reconciliation, which they apparently can use once a year to pass budget-related bills with a simple majority. They used it up this year to pass the BBB.
(Cribbed from Reddit.)
Edit: The way I described it may not be how this works. Sorry, I’m not from the US.
Wow so they can’t even at least posture that they would refuse to vote to keep the government open if they don’t agree to continue to the subsidies…
I hope that at the least, the re-establishment of SNAP will be quick.
uhhhh. I guess we’ll see. You’re more optimistic than some of us.
Even if your Democratic senator didn’t vote for this, call them up and call them out for allowing the spinless democrats to once again get fucked by Republicans for nothing.
But they are not the same trust me bro. It is not all performative politics with no real impact. Democrats will save us trust me bro. One more lawsuit bro. One more vote and we defeat facism I promise.
A new list of Dems to vote out with new lefties.
As I said before, both parties wanted to cut the programs and fire federal workers because their donors wanted it. They pretend to fight over this wile actually working hand in hand to take money from the poor and funnel it to the 1%. Now that the shutdown was starting to really bite it’s time to announce some “compromise”. People are still fired, programs are still cut and politicians will keep pretending to disagree over this.
Thanks for giving the GOP what they wanted, “lesser evil” members of Congress.
And I had hope they would keep the pressure on the fascists, silly me.
I knew they were controlled opposition but this is going above and beyond the call of duty.
Why the fuck did they start offering concessions and bargaining after they swept the state elections last week?
More evidence that moderates are not allies and are just as fearful of a leftward popular swing as the Republicans are.
They don’t have to worry about polling now, so it’s back to the spineless status quo for these useless fucks.
Fuck this shit pathetic
I can’t take this anymore. I’m fucking done. Fuck these traders. Fuck my fucking dumbass fucking neighbors. Fuck my fucking asshole family. Fuck all these people. Fuck New Hampshire with the biggest fucking dildo ever Fuck you New Hampshire Fuck you New Hampshire Fuck you New Hampshire
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The Democrats could fuck up a wet dream.
Absolute fucking pussies.
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