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    A teacher showed us the documentary An Inconvenient Truth and the real truth I learned from that, is that the majority of adults are irresponsible crybabies.

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    Boomer: “Climate change will be your burden to suffer through”.

    Gen Z: “It’s not fair. You got a full life of profligacy before the effects were even noticeable. I get none of the material wealth and I’m going to have to live my whole long life suffering increasing effects of it.”

    Boomer: “Not so long.”

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        Told my mom I didn’t want kids and she said, “Oh you’ll change your mind”

        I came out to my mom as gay and she said “well you can always adopt”

        Then I started intense birth control treatments for my fucked up reproductive system and she was like, “you can still adopt”

        Yeeted my uterus, cervix, and fallopian tubes just before my bday this summer and threw a fuckin party afterwards because now there is absolutely no way I can ever be a parent AND my reproductive system can’t do whatever the fuck it wants cause it doesn’t exist!

        My mom finally accepted that this part of the family tree has ended after that. This while process happened over 18 years. I started telling her I didn’t wanna be a parent when I was TEN.

        Edit: I should prolly say that my mom isn’t a boomer, but Gen X. She’s surrounded constantly by boomers and other members of Gen X who act like boomers so she has picked up a lot of the traits. Practically demanding grandchildren was the worst boomer thing she’s done so far, and I hope it stays that way.

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            How my grandmother was when my sister was adopted. Never treated her the same as the rest of the grandkids. Even when my sister helped care for the bitch 24/7 while she was living in our home dying of self-inflicted lung cancer.

            I was not sad when my grandmother died, if you can tell.

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                Fuck off. Anti-natalism is eugenics and anyone who advocates for it is a Nazi in my eyes. Not to mention 90% of you all just project your major depression and misery into literal 8 year olds. Please just go to therapy.

                Every conversation people have about “degrowth” and “the earth has too many people” always leads to someone advocating for eugenics OR LITERAL GENOCIDE. The Earth, right at this moment, can hold ten billion people. The problem is capitalism, consumerism and food waste.

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                  Everything you don’t like or understand is Nazi?

                  Degrowth. It’s not antinatalism, nor eugenics. But simple people need simple answers. It’s ethically shrinking humanity’s population and consumption to within what the earth can sustain. That’s it.

                  You know what hole to shove your Nazi bullshit up.

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                Ah. See, I don’t want children because I’m what you call a selfish person and want to live my life completely unbound. Kids would just kill my dreams and the vibe.

                The ethical part is just a bonus to make me feel even better about my decision.

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                  This guy’s an anti-natalist, I wouldn’t take seriously anything he fucking says.

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          “well you can always adopt”

          As if adoption wasn’t an extremely intensive process that goes on for who knows how many years and even then it’s not guaranteed you’ll actually get the kid. Let alone how much it differs from DIY.

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      I once saw it described as the Boomers being the “fuck around” generation and Gen Z being the “find out” generation.

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    I remember a similar comment made by one my highschool teachers. Because I was such a try-hard cringe edge lord I said something like “if my generation got rid of your generation, then we’ve solved that problem”.

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      The videos assessment is fatally flawed and meaningless. (Admittedly, I watched the first half then skipped through the rest quickly)

      It talks about the amazing growth of renewables and other unrelated things like Ozone. Climate change has nothing to do with renewables. Climate change is based almost entirely on emissions of GHGs. Building gigawatts of renewables means nothing unless you displace fossil fuels with it. Spoiler alert: we didn’t.

      CO² emissions are higher now than ever. All the renewables were only added to our energy mix. No fossil fuel was displaced. In fact, today we burn more fossil fuel than ever before.

      The keeling curve is steeper now than it was in the 60’s showing that unfortunate exponential growth rate curve.

      We are emitting more CO² now at a faster rate than ever before.

      Renewables are are only good if whatever comes online replaces fossil fuels. It didn’t. 2024 we are now at 1.5°C above, and if we magically turned off all emissions today we still have 20 years of baked in warming. All we did was find new ways to grow and consume. AI datacentres are the new gobbler of energy.

      As a rule of thumb, agriculture output is anticipated to drop 10% for every degree of warming. Our propposed plan, which is no where near realistic or on track is 3.5°C. 35% less food doesn’t bode well.

      Then the real fun part kicks in. If we ever manage to stop human emissions from fossil fuel use, entirely, we will still have to contend with natural warming from a planet that is not in a stable state. Tipping points are natural phenomena that behave one way at first until you tip it over then it falls into a new state. The interesting ones are arctic ice cover where sunlight that used to be reflected off polar ice caps now gets absorbed by dark oceans. Then you get the frozen methane hydrates under the arctic that melt and have the potential to release even more methane with no way to shut it off.

      If you’re not a doomer, you don’t understand. Shits bad man. Real bad. No one should be feeling good about our accomplishments to date. You shouldn’t feel hopeful. You should be panicking into radical action.

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        We are emitting more CO² now at a faster rate than ever before.

        We are not, and that graph you posted does not measure that.

        CO² emissions are higher now than ever.

        And they are not either. That phrase has been true for almost every year of the last 3 centuries, but not this one.

        Again, your graph does not measure the thing that you said. I’d guess that you are misinterpreting the data.

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    What’s a middle school teacher supposed to do about it? There’s little to nothing we can do at the personal level beyond reducing our personal tiny footprint.

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      What’s a middle school teacher supposed to do about it?

      Join an organisation that does something about it and teach all children about that organisation.

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        So climate change will be their generation’s problem, just like in the comic? I feel like most of the replies to me are just proving the teacher right.

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          Almost. The next generation is the backup plan. Joining an organisation, and inviting the parents, can solve the problem earlier.

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      There’s no reason to assume that his students will end up in positions that are significantly more powerful than his. And he is talking about generations, not you people in my class.

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    Stupid generations war. As stupid as men vs women, religion vs religion etc. It should be smart people vs stupid greedy sociopaths

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    Humanity doesn’t do shit unless the problem is holding the door open with a foot stuck between the door. Then the rest of humanity who the problem hasn’t gotten to yet will point and laugh at the person experiencing the problem because reasons. At that point nobody will be too eager to jump and help, lest their door get stuck too by the problem.

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    I was thinking like this when I decided to go into the field, like “we can’t just doom the next generation and peace out”, now i’m deep in it at the highest level and i’m like “ooh that’s why…”

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    Do you think if we had lifespan in the centuries we’d have a different perspective?

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      Not under capitalism. The wealthiest will do just fine in climate collapse and they’re planning for it. They don’t care about anything beyond the next fiscal quarter in terms of environment.

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    The problem is, there are egotistical maniacs with nukes trying to enslave society for the benefit of the 1% or to satisfy their own ideals while sacrificing everybody else’s needs/safety. If they decide to nuke everything, there won’t be a world left to protect against even this.