Cool, cool cool cool. Nothing dystopian about that at all.

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    People apparently don’t know about the NSA Utah Datacenter.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center

    Been a thing for over a decade, unimaginable total storage size, and they literally archive everything.

    This place had between 3 and 12 exabytes of storage capacity, in 2013.

    1 exabyte is 1 billion gigabytes.

    How big was your pc/laptop hard drive in 2013?

    Maybe… 250 gigs to 2 teras, something like that?

    This data center could now easily be in the yottabyte range ( millions of exabytes ), maybe even ronnabytes ( billions of exabytes ).

    https://www.rankred.com/largest-data-centers-in-the-world/

    6th largest data center in the world by physical size, and it is the only one on this list explictly designated for ‘national security’.

    The NSA has taps on every single major trunk line going in or out of the US, they coordinate with every major US-based ISP, every major software provider, data center operator.

    They have so much archived data that their actual problem is figuring out how to search through it efficiently… and that is a big thing that Palantir does, that was kinda their whole intitial… thing, as a company.

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    Don’t just be mad at palantir.

    The American government funded palantir.

    Palantir couldn’t exist without the helping hand of the American government.

    The time to give a fuck was long before Snowden made his leaks.

    All the dystopian stuff people fear the government will do is already being done by a framework of companies funded by our government.

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    Fuckers should help me restore my old academic portfolio then. Might as well put living in a dystopian surveillance state to helpful use.

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    Remimds me of when everyone was deleting their posts around the API blackout and suddenly the next day it was like Reddit did a restore from checkpoint and all of the edited posts and deleted posts came right back. I for one had to run the script that replaced then delete my posts twice, but that’s besides the point.

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      Same, but then a bunch of mine popped up again sometime in the last few months. Not exactly sure when, and it wasn’t all of them.

      I didn’t run the replace script tho, I wish I would’ve.

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        Did they actually come back or did a bunch of comments not show up in your profile because the subs were private so they didn’t get deleted, then they reappeared when the subs reopened? I thought some of mine were restored too, but it was a combination of that and the tool I used only hitting the most recent 1000.

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          Not a bad guess, and it’s always possible there may have been a handful for which that were true, but no. The bulk of them were from subs that have been public for years and continue to be. I’d been at zero comments for pert near 2 years? A bit more. I would check every now and again after they all came back early on. Then suddenly I noticed a few thousand were back, all from 2011-2014 or thereabouts.

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    Pretty sure they also have access to banned Reddit accounts whose users can no longer access their history to know what they will be judged and profiled for, too.

    Just assume every social network either allows this directly or enables a third party to do it, Lemmy specially.

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    There are dedicated tools, called Social Listening tools that do just these. Some examples are Brandwatch, Sprinklr, Talkwalker and Meltwater.

    Not just Palantir, anyone and everyone is using these tools. From consumer companies to investment banks to your favourite content creator is using some kind of social listening to stay on top of trends and understand how you behave.

    Reddit and Twitter are two social platforms that provide the most data openly and freely, and in reddit’s case you can get a lot of historical data without extra cost.

    Your favourite candle brand, and your favourite outdoor clothing company and protein shake company is part of your favourite reddit community listening to what you’re talking about. They know if you like energy drinks, you might light heavily scented bath soaps too.

    Deleted posts show up on these platforms quite often but when you click on them to go to reddit or twitter you’ll get a not found or deleted page.

    PS: I’ve been working in social listening for last 8 years.

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        Gotta eat. Blame the system that creates this incentive not some individual wageslave

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            I think coming out of an MBA, this is one of the less harmful jobs. I’d rather not be in consulting or investment banking or sales or big tech.

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          I agree but at the same time, in a different thread who’s topic specifically is shaming a company for working on the white house, people are foaming from their mouths that someone is working for Trump and downvote anyone who disagrees. The double standard is just mine blowing.

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        I’ve been working mostly on the analysis side of things, currently I do this for a consumer goods company.

        And yes I do it to make a living. Got hired as an analyst in this field out of MBA and stayed in this. Also being chronically online and familiar with social networks helped.

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        I wish lmao. But there are tons of data companies selling all kinds of data on people to whoever will pay them for it. Me working for identifying trends or what flavour of green tea is popular are less harmful use cases.

        What we need is regulation to reign in big tech. These API licenses are expensive and I suspect is a big reason why Reddit ended free data sharing (which led to death of third party reddit clients).

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      ‘Social Listening’ is uh, one way to brand ‘corporate surveillance panopticon’, I guess hahah!

      Oh god I’m so glad I am an ex-corpo, the stupid fucking lingo and buzzwords alone should be enough to make most people realize they are in a cult, but I guess not.

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        There isn’t much to tell. We gather conversations and analyse it to understand consumer behaviour, trends, campaign performance etc.

        If you don’t want your data showing up in social listening tools, make your social accounts as private as possible.

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          I can tell you from the perspective of someone working in consumer insights for a consumer company, sales and retail data is far more important and influences decisions way more.

          So I’d say put your money where your mouth is. If you don’t like certain companies or brands stop buying their products. If you think groceries are getting expensive buy cheaper alternatives or private labels. You can do this with a lot of non-food grocery items. Private label is almost always cheaper and you get pretty much the same shit as global brands.

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            I see a lot of conversations of people mentioning how expensive things have gotten, yet we see in sales data that our expensive products sell more (this is also due to the fact that more ad dollars are spent on higher margin products) but try and buy cheaper alternatives whenever you can.

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      This was pretty evident the second they named their company over the tool used by The Dark Lord Sauron and Saruman to spy on the actions of others from Lord of the Rings.

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    In October 2025, various news outlets reported on past Reddit posts by Platner between 2013 and 2021 in which he called himself a “communist”, declared that “all” cops are “bastards”, and agreed with a post describing White people as “racist and stupid”.[36] In a 2013 Reddit discussion about anti-rape underwear, Platner commented that people worried about assault should “take some responsibility for themselves and not get so fucked up they wind up having sex with someone they don’t mean to”.[37] He also referenced political violence in multiple posts; in 2018, he wrote: “Fight until you get tired of fighting with words and then fight with signs, and fists, and guns if need be.” Platner also said that “an armed working class is a requirement for economic justice” and urged readers to "Get Armed, Get Organized. The Other Side Sure As Hell Is

    Based?

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      Nothing based about overt misogyny and rape apologism… Not to mention the nazi tattoo.

      On the plus side, he’ll be great at “bridging the aisle”. \s

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    Once you put anything on the public internet these days, it will be harvest by corporations and used against you eventually

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    For as long as Reddit has been available there have been places that would scrape it and mirror deleted/edited comments. I don’t remember what any of them are so people would use them all the time to figure out what someone said before they were banned.

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    Yup, data archival. Now imagine this future: right now, encrypted data transfers may be wire-tapped and stored. When quantum computers are available, all that traffic will be decryptable. This includes pretty much all general HTTPS traffic since TLS mostly uses ECDHE for key exchange which isn’t quantum secure.
    I bet nation state actors are recording everything they can.

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      Damn, dude… that’s insane and I’m surprised it’s never occurred to me.

      I’ve had the realization before as I realize that maybe my password database will eventually be easily cracked… but there’s no reason it cannot apply to data in transit as well, as long as someone is recording it.

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    Sure. As far as I can tell Palantir sells the software that police, ICE and the military use to Face ID suspects, including “aliens” and Osama Bin Laden (way back when that happened).

    Once you scan your face data and post it online, you can assume security agencies (Palantir clients) load it into Palantir software to complete your profile. Privacy is dead.

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    Anything ever posted online can be archived and searched later. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to cross reference publicly available sources along with subpoenaed data.

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      I think even Facebook said years ago it’s less taxing on the systems to unlink content rather than delete it.