• B-TR3E@feddit.org
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    10 days ago

    First of all, our computers are always on. Those kernels don’t compile themselves, three times a day. Secondarily we could, at least, turn our machines on without having to install a dozen of updates before having to reboot again.

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        9 days ago

        If systems that run Linux were to power down, that’s it for almost all of the internet.

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          9 days ago

          If people could just be kind and turn off the server when they leave.

          If you close a tab, get a prompt; “it looks like you’re leaving this website, would you like to power down the server(s)?”

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            8 days ago

            And all websites use wake-on-lan over the internet so the first person every day just starts the server and the last one turns off the lights!

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      9 days ago

      sleep and hibernate work fine on linux. I remember the olden days like 15 years ago where nothing of it worked. contrary to the stupid macos that was forced onto me which sleep means nothing and just keeps draining my bluetooth headphones battery anyway instead of turning off when I tell it to.

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        9 days ago

        I still have issues on two separate machines. One won’t hibernate sometimes, I suspect the nvidia card. The other has a new-ish ethernet card, which doesn’t work after waking from hibernation (unless I reload the kernel module)

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          What’s the point of hibernation? You have so much stuff open in some exact state you can’t just turn off the computer?

          It takes less time for me to boot fresh than to resume from hibernation (32GB of RAM)

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            Yes. I leave my laptop running in the office overnight, and at the end of the day I have a bunch of note documents, papers, code editors, and corresponding plots open and arranged among multiple monitors. It’s extremely annoying to re-do this setup the next day, so I leave it running. If hibernation worked reliably, I could turn the machine off at the end of the day.

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          Yeah, I have another one that has a stupid nvidia card that crashes when trying to hibernate sometimes. But that’s nvidia fault, it was not something I would buy, was also forced upon me by another work place. At least it’s consistent since many times it just crashes on boot up too and needs to be forced reboot up to 10 times sometimes.

          Nvidia should burn in hell.

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        9 days ago

        Every few updates my Pop_OS! suspend would break (sleep and not wake, or sleep and wake immediately). I could never figure it out beyond knowing NVIDIA was the source. Worked around it by swapping my graphics card to a comparable AMD card-- now my machine sleeps like a baby.

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        Absolutely not. Nvidia GPUs and some network cards can and will break sleep on Linux. It’s currently very much broken on my machine and I stopped trying to fix it. Up until a few days ago the PC failed to properly power down to a sleep state and would leave a whole bunch of things powered up, like the monitor and the fans and the lights. Now it’s even worse. On top of all that, the computer goes right back into sleep seconds after it wakes up. Extremely annoying.

        I use arch btw.

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    9 days ago

    Yeah, if I’m not using the computer I turn it off because why would I be wasting electricity? So it’s the same for windows or linux to me. You do need to reboot your computer sometimes anyway. For linux it’s when you update the kernel. For windows you just have to reboot for similar reasons or after you’ve spent a bunch of time trying to figure out why something isn’t working and then in desperation “try turning it off and turning it back on again”. Better to just turn it off when you’re done using it and turn it on when you need it again and many of those issues are avoided completely.

    So I turn off my computer when I’m not using it and I save power AND so the computer doesn’t get glitchy. It doesn’t take much time for the computer to boot up, so there’s not much reason to not just turn it off when I’m not using it.

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    9 days ago

    But by the time the lid is up to reach the power button, it’s already out of sleep and operational…

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      8 days ago

      Meanwhile, my work Windows laptop is significantly slower to wake up now as I’m forced to hibernate it thanks to them removing S3 sleep in favor of the modern standby shit.

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    The problem is that by the time I have said that to them it’s already to desktop. I cursed Myself by having an operating system that is fast and efficient and I also did not install 18 different applications that open at boot. So now I just feel left out from the group not waiting for my computer to finish booting :(