• neidu3@sh.itjust.works
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    They can, yes. It is worth noting that some recipients were convicted for various “crimes” in their home countries, such as the Chinese human rights activist who won it in 2010.

    Plus, five words: Henry Fucking War Criminal Kissinger. 1973.

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      Obama got it before the drone bombings. It was more of a hope kinda thing but the hope didn’t turn out that great. And really just indirectly led us to vaguely gesture around

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        Obama not fighting for his Supreme Court appointment is a lot more than indirectly responsible for all of this. He abdicated his duty to execute the office and fucked us all in doing so.

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          Look, I’m not going to say Obama is blameless, but come on man. You’re kind of victim blaming here.

          Mitch McConnell and the GOP are responsible.

          Also, sure, Merrick Garland would have been better than what we ended up with, but how much better really? We all saw how Garland handled Jan 6 and Trump as AG.

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    I lost what little faith I had in the Nobel Peace Prize when Obama won it — and I liked Barack Obama, I voted for him both times, but I didn’t think “up and coming politician”/“first Black president” really qualified him, and the general feeling around the time was “well we hope he does good for peace in the world.” So… you give him a prize that is probably better suited to someone else, hoping he does what you want in the future?

    Regarding Trump being a felon, I’m more concerned that we don’t let felons vote, but we’ll let a felon be president. Make that make sense.

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      Nelson Mandela was imprisoned for opposing South Africa’s apartheid regime, which enforced racial segregation and discrimination.

      Op asked “if someone who was a convicted felon/rapist could they be awarded the nobel peace prize?.”

      These two are things are not the same, and just to make sure we’re both on the same page, they’re not the same because one of them went to prison as a form of protest against an unjust system. The other raped some people.

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        I think the point you might have missed is, a conviction shouldn’t exclude you from receiving a prize, because you may have been convicted by a corrupt court.

        I’m not saying Trump was wrongly convicted, just that a conviction shouldn’t exclude you in and of itself.

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        These two are things are not the same

        I think you missed the point. Both were illegal at the time. Both led to convictions. Hell, hiding Jews in Germany was illegal during the holocaust. What is moral and what is legal don’t always align.

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        Want to go take a deep breath, realign your chakras and reread OPs comment?

        ‘Cause I literally replied with a convicted felon (Nelson Mandela) that was awarded the Nobel peace prize

        Would it be easier if I provided another example? Liu Xiaobo was in a jail cell when he was awarded the Nobel peace prize

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    They’re supposed to not qualify for high office either so probably these days. Asking for a friend?

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    Yes

    It’s not very different from John bonomassa being named best guitarist by rolling stone

    Who?

    Exactly.

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    Considering the reason why the prize exist at all was to help Nobel with his guilt over the invention of dynamite. Pretty much anyone can get the prize.

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        No. Not at all. I’m saying you can be a complete piece of shit and get one. It was nobel who felt the guilt. I didn’t say anything about those who get them. Didn’t mention rape at all. Don’t reason in advance of your data.

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    Many past peace price winners were leaders in armed conflicts, and war is dirty business. So I assume the rules on crimes aren’t that strict.

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    The Nobel prize itself was created to downplay atrocities for fame, so yes, you can get it no matter what.

    It’s fulfilling it’s goal.

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    It’s the reason a felon can take office in the government. Otherwise, it would be easy to “convict” someone you considered a threat.