Wow we moved from the “first they came for the…” to “and then they came for me” in 60 seconds flat.
Americans need to get organized and get their shit together FAST. What’s left of their democracy is disappearing daily.
Their democracy has been gone for a while. They’re just getting around to noticing now.
It’s ironic that the country with the most guns per citizen is the country least likely to defend its democracy with those guns.
In this real-world case, the “indicia” (indicators) of future political violence listed in the report are:
- anti-Americanism,
- anti-capitalism,
- anti-Christianity,
- support for the overthrow of the United States Government,
- extremism on migration,
- extremism on race,
- extremism on gender
- hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family,
- hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on religion, and
- hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on morality.
Given that the fascist administration defines “extremism” on migration, race, and gender to basically be the absence of bigotry and the presence of rationality, those are ALL positive viewpoints possessed by most of the sane and reasonable people in the world.
Yeah this just straight up designates every human (and some animals probably) as terrorists
we want to put migrants in prisons surrounded by alligators
not extremist
we don’t want that
violently extremist stance on migration, pre-crimed in my jorts
He has precrime in his pants
If everyone is guilty of crimes against the state, no one is guilty of crimes against the state.
That’s really not how that works.
It’s really more like… If everyone is guilty of crimes against the state, then anyone can be imprisoned at any time.
(All at the discretion of those in charge.) This is really a much worse situation for everyone.
That’s really not how that works.
I expect you’re quite worried about this situation but try not to be so dismissive of others, please.
Yes, in a very real sense it means that the Government can target their enemies with impunity. But in another very real sense it suddenly throws everyone over the barrier of having committed a ‘crime’ and may well remove any moral or ethical barrier one might feel in opposing the regime.
I expect you’re quite worried about this situation but try not to be so dismissive of others, please.
That’s fair, I can see how starting my comment like that must have been really annoying. Sorry for that.
If everyone’s guilty of crimes against the state then everybody’s in for a bad time. The population of the USA is going to go way down over the next few years.
If you don’t be a slave for billionaires you’re a tewwowist. That’s fweedom.
Oh no, dont thweton me. :3
Inventing and punishing thoughtcrimes seems to be a favored tactic among dictators. Trump-MAGA and ICE remind me most of Stalin and his NKVD (secret police). Solzhenitsyn wrote about how ordinary citizens would frequently be arrested/shot/sent to the gulag over mere assertions that they held anti-Soviet/anti-Communist beliefs, or had counter-revolutionary sympathies. It was illegal to not rat out others who you suspected held such beliefs and inclinations - if you didn’t you could be shot yourself.
I think we’re getting there. I soon expect to see federal government websites and apps where you can report your friends/neighbors/family members for anti-capitalist and/or anti-fascist and/or anti-evangelical-Christian leanings.
From Wikipedia (Great Terror article)
The purges were largely conducted by the NKVD, which functioned as the interior ministry and secret police of the USSR. Soviet politicians who opposed or criticized Stalin were removed from office and imprisoned, or executed, by the NKVD. The purges were eventually expanded to the Red Army high command, which had a disastrous effect on the military. The campaigns also affected many other segments of society: the intelligentsia, wealthy peasants—especially those lending money or other wealth (kulaks)—and professionals. As the scope of the purge widened, the omnipresent suspicion of saboteurs and counter-revolutionaries (known collectively as wreckers) began affecting civilian life.
The campaigns were carried out according to the general line of the party, often by direct orders by the Politburo headed by Stalin. Hundreds of thousands of people were accused of political crimes, including espionage, wrecking, sabotage, anti-Soviet agitation, and conspiracies to prepare uprisings and coups. They were executed by shooting, or sent to Gulag labor camps. The NKVD targeted certain ethnic minorities with particular force (such as Volga Germans or Soviet citizens of Polish origin), who were subjected to forced deportation and extreme repression. Throughout the purge, the NKVD sought to strengthen control over civilians through fear and frequently used imprisonment, torture, violent interrogation, and executions during its mass operations.
It’s chilling.
None of this should sound plausible in the USA. These simply aren’t the kind of concerns citizens should have to have in a free democracy, because it shouldn’t be possible to let things get this far.
It truly breaks my heart to see the US as it is now. It’s frightening, and it’s extremely disappointing. I think of all the people who give these totalitarians their vote, and I’m deeply disappointed in them.
These are exactly the kind of concerns citizens should have in a free democracy because that’s how you keep your democracy free. We only have rights because normal everyday citizens fought for them and continue to fight for them. The problem is that we’ve all become complacent and lazy about it and let things slide to where things are now.
These are exactly the kind of concerns citizens should have in a free democracy because that’s how you keep your democracy free.
I do hear you, and I know, and I agree… It’s just that I always expected to fight against the slow creep of totalitarianism. I expected to have to look out for veiled threats, or hidden signs of tyranny. I never expected to face overt, blatant totalitarianism. I never expected the US president to openly endorse white nationalist organizations. I never expected so much of the public to be on board with what are so clearly unethical policies, with an administration that closely mimics the rise of the Nazi party…
If politics is a tug of war, I expected to have to constantly pull in the right direction, I didn’t expect the other side to light the rope on fire.
If you thought this was all sudden you just might not have been paying attention. Every president whether its a D or an R has continued the slide.
I don’t think that’s really an accurate portrayal of events… I mean, how much did Obama or Biden work to add to political polarity and divisiveness? When did they try to pit Americans against each other?
I think that argument breaks down when you get to the most recent presidents we’ve had.
The only difference between parties is what group of people in the world we will take advantage of. Democrats take advantage of “third world countries” and republicans take advantage of “fake americans”.
The whole country is based on greed and abuse of power.
How does he get punished? He’s the most anti-capitalist I know! I mean Free Trade and Open Borders is a Capitalist Theory!! He’s anti-free trade, close all the borders! I really don’t understand hate politicians.
Legal loophole: it’s not anti-capitalistic if you are just stupid
I mean, he is an expert on crime.
What even is a “pre-crime” and since when does it exist?
Thought crimes
By asking this question you have committed it.
It’s a crime that exists only in an alternate factual world. 😶
When he looks at his daughter, that’s a pre-crime.
Oh my God, did somebody let him watch Minority Report? His grasp on reality is, shall we say, not strong.
I cannot wait to learn he died. Painfully hopefully.
I will take up celebratory drinking for one day (I don’t drink normally)
The country will be the drunkest it’s been since the start of the temperance movement
If you think his death will change anything in this rotten system, you’ve got another thing coming lol
Nothing will change for the positive, but it will be a cathartic interlude in this march to hell.
Fair enough. Ill definitely spark one up when hes gone.
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Crime before crime? So not a crime? Is raping children a post crime. Asking for a friend?
Raping children is soon to be legal and then they drop the Epstein files. See, nothing weird going on in there. Just the thing we all enjoy
If you’re wearing the right coloured hat it’s virtually impossible to commit any kind of crime at all.
I wish soooooo deeply that a Trump Gestapo is reading all my anti capitalist and anti organized religious comments. I’m so out and proud it’ll be great.
The emperor has no clothes, and the frogs are starting to notice that maybe the water is a little hotter than it’s worth.
Grandpa wants to change his diaper before it’s been shit.
