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    Collins pointed out that this was impossible. “It’s against federal law for people who are here illegally to get health care,” she said.

    I really dislike how ‘health care’ has become a synonym for ‘health insurance policy coverage’. And even so this is still a ridiculous statement in its own right.

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      Like it’s not already difficult for people here in the U.S.A. to afford. As a vast majority of anything else the ACA adjustment would never trickle down, but it sure as hell will boulder/snowball down. And that’s on top of the Medicaid/Medicare cuts.

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    I thought this was the Trump shutdown, but no it really is the Johnson / Trump / GOP shutdown.

    And really when article said he “snapped” I was hoping for something at least mildly traumatic. Or even like snapped to attention, in realization that he was completely in the wrong. sadly, no.

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    The Republicans can pass this if their reps all vote together, they can’t even get all the Republicans to support them anymore.

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        Except when they used reconciliation to pass 2 budget bills in 2021 when Biden became president, and 2 in 2017 when Trump became president. They use reconciliation to bypass the filibuster after 20 hours thereby allowing just 51 votes to pass budgetary measures… so long as no extraneous non budgetary items are added to it, those individually would need 60 and be filed separately at that point.

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          Sure but the point is that these asshole Republicans don’t want to use the reconciliation process because then they can’t say, well the Demoncrats voted for it so it’s all their fault you uneducated white people don’t have “affordable” healthcare and why your white racist Charlie Kirk Grandma had no Medicare/Medicaid and got kicked out of her nursing home that their Obese Oligarchy Bill said to do.

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          I may be wrong, but I believe you’re talking about two different types of legislation that have different rules.

          The Republicans have the votes for a simple majority, but I don’t think this bill counts as a reconciliation and would require new changes to the senate’s rules (which may or may not be possible).

          I could be wrong, but if I was, why haven’t they just pushed it forward?

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            Because they had to wait till October 1st, and they thought they could use it as another way to complain about anyone left of them and cause more rift/hate. Saying, we’ll send it through reconciliation tomorrow doesn’t sound as good as the “radical left extremists are terrorizing our government” to them. So they will get everything they wanted, with only 51 votes, and the ability to weaponize it. And the Democrats and what not who never got to the negotiating tables will be blamed for not magically stopping something nor doing “enough.”

            Have you heard about Kamala not in government anymore’s latest pizza topping? It’s like she’s out of touch!

            Edit: They’ve only really passed budgets on time 4 times since 1974. (When they implemented the ability to reconcile budgets to bypass filibusters) https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/10/01/congress-has-long-struggled-to-pass-spending-bills-on-time/

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              Now they can. They couldn’t before the financial year rolled over as of today.

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                So what your saying is that the government shutdown is do to the Republicans inaction.

                Shit the entire concept of government shutdowns started in the U.S. during Ronald Regans presidency when he vetoed a spending bill. They basically invented government shutdowns to weaponize the ability to hold basic needs from the people and call it legal to get what they want.

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                  So what your saying is that the government shutdown is do to the Republicans inaction.

                  It is. Just clarifying why they didn’t just “do it again”.

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    Mike Johnson needs to be slapped in the face with a cock untill he publically admits he likes it, and has in fact liked that for a long, long time already.

    Release the Grindr profile.

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    I can’t wait to find out what Trump / Putin has been blackmailing this choad with.

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      Separately, that choadster has lasted waaaaay longer than I originally thought he would.

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        Obama had a 60-40 Senate for a few months, and the best he could do was the ACA since insurance lobbyists didn’t want to lose their jobs. We’re never getting universal healthcare.

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          I agree, I don’t think politicians will spearhead the change, it needs to come from labor and student unions pushing for widespread strikes. The reason I think May 1st 2028 is the best target is because of unions coordinating the expiration of labor contacts for that date, because Taft-Hartley basically outlaws coordinating strikes between unions.

          https://may1.uaw.org/

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    All of my coworkers believe that this shutdown is 100% the democrats fault and it’s because they wanna give illegal immigrants healthcare and allow trans athletes to compete in the Olympics. You can fix dumb or brainwashed.

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    The Republicans are absolutely committed to the lie that the shutdown is because the Democrats are demanding the government pay for illegal aliens’ health care. It doesn’t matter how many times they get corrected; they’ll just keep repeating it.

    It’s an interesting experiment in just how brazen a lie they’ll be able to get away with. I’m hoping this is the one that finally breaks them, and they lose credibility for good, but the right-wing media bubble is sewn up pretty tight, and so far it seems they’ll believe pretty much anything they’re fed.