My brother-in-law quit his local tv station job over the censorship. Affiliate network. Proud of him!
The left gets to see headlines like this that seem devastating and they pump their fists in satisfaction.
The right pumps their fist as they see their own set of headlines that describe a totally different narrative, that despite facing unfair backlash, that the “woke mob” has been dealt a blow and has learned that Disney isn’t going to ignore the dangerous and violent rhetoric that the late night grifters spew.
Either way, Disney has calculated all of this, and their numbers will be back to normal within six months or higher because of the trending of their brand names. The average, uninvolved median voter and comfortable liberal will snuff a noise of amusement at the whole thing before firing up their Disney+ subscription to catch the latest round of Star Wars slop this fall.
Just because a company had deep pockets doesn’t mean they don’t care about losses. Being a publicly traded company does drive their behavior to some degree. It only 1 news report to make them lose investors.
Maybe, but maybe not. Consumers haven’t forgiven Target even months after the fact, and their sales are still way down. People are pissed given everything going on now.
Target was already in a really tight spot, their prices are too high and their products too specialized for an economy teetering on free-fall, and they’re not exactly offering the broad-appeal staple products like Walmart, which usually have locations literally across the street from Target.
Larger brands rarely budge and if they do, it’s not exactly a lasting social impact. I maintain that you can do a lot more as an individual simply by spending less broadly. Companies only cave to public backlash when they’re desperate, so we all need to do a lot more to make them desperate. Spend less on luxuries and entertainment, cut back or quit vices, learn to go without the latest games, movies and electronics and keep your money out of credit companies so they stop feeding off us. We built this monster, we need to starve it. (Also, again, the economy is close to collapse, good idea to start stuffing your mattresses.)
There is also alternatives to target.
There are alternatives to Disney too. 😄
Like what? Pretty much all of those are owned by the same people
I mean there are other sources of TV shows, both legal and otherwise.
Disney who?
Kimmel who?
Edit: lol this is at -23 for no good reason. 3 weeks ago no one would have even cared at all, now random keyboard warriors are sticking up for him, why? Oh and “cope harder” guy. You guys need to learn how/when to say “cope”, i get how he is trying to use it, but this isnt “creative writing”.
Cope harder?
And there’s why they “unfired” him.
Losing roughly a quarter of a billion per year in revenue makes them rethink things.
—— 9.99 per month for Disney basic 15.99 for Disney plus.
Just for easy math average those two so $12.99 per month.
$12.99 x 1,700,000 x 12 months = $264,996,000
And how many of those resubscribed, since Disney obviously learned their lessen.
Fuck Disney. If you didn’t know who they were, you do now. Publicly traded companies care about one thing:
I was kind of shocked how many people on here resubbed a day later and told others to do the same because they got the message.
That is sort of the point with those protests. If they don’t go back there is no treat whenethe puppy does a good job. until theyeare trained you need positive reinforcement.
Yeah, people forget there is also a cost for backtracking these decisions. So the point of boycotting/protesting is to discourage bad behavior, then good behavior can’t be equally harmful.
That was his best joke when he came back:
It’s less than 1% of their subscribers.
It’s a drop in the bucket. Sadly.
From what data I can pull they have roughly 125M subscribers, so it’s about 1.4%. This still doesn’t sound a lot, but it’s effect is exaggerated because of their business model: the majority of their cost is for producing shows and movies, i.e. costs that don’t scale with the subscriber count. The cost of serving each subscriber is almost negligible. They need some number of subscribers to break even and every subscriber beyond that is their profit margin. Losing a bunch of subscribers directly cuts into their profit.
And yet it was still enough.
I hate to be that guy but this whole thing has frustrated me deeply. It shows we’re willing to fight back and do know how, but our selective use of that power is rather superficial.
Yes, I understand this was very important in the realm of speech but it still has an overtone of celebrity culture. Most people can’t be bothered to boycott to end genocide or to protest legislation or support the courts or to advocate for worker rights or healthcare, but to save a celebrity that makes this nightmare easier for them to swallow every night? Sign everyone up!
It feels less about protecting free speech and fighting fascism and more about them protecting their humor drug that makes “the bad place” more palpable.
Americans know how to fight back they’re just unwilling to do it unless their TV personality who gives them feel good juice is on the milk carton. I know that’s harsh but it’s just frustrating watching everyone cry about how helpless they are until their feel good nightly placebo(s) was/are on the line.
Again, I get the importance and the way the target was clear etc. It’s just frustrating to watch people cry they don’t know what to do then step up big time for famous people but not their communities, neighbors or their own family’s wellbeing.
This is a huge win and I don’t mean to detract from that. Please keep boycotting and hopefully this drives it home to more people that this is an effective tactic across the board. I just needed to vent a little.
I hear you, but cancelling 1/4 of your streaming services with the knowledge that can be reversed easily at any time is hardly the same as protesting or boycotting something tangible or an entire industry. I don’t think this has anything to do with celebrity worship, and it has everything to do with how easy the protesting can be.
This protest could be done from home in three minutes, you don’t suffer the consequences until the end of the month, and we all know less TV is better for us regardless of speech so there’s very little downside.
I agree Americans aren’t doing enough. I wish we were doing more.
I think it actually shows we don’t know how to fight back.
With Disney all they had to do was unsubscribe (or in some way contact Disney) to show their frustration.
How do I do that with ICE? How do I do that with Republicans (when all of my reps are Democrats).
Disney has a bottom line they worry about, but this administration doesn’t care about my opinions or my wallet (look at the direction the economy is going). So even if I could directly tell them I’m not happy with things (and I do in some ways), they don’t care.
A coordinated effort to withhold the tax revenue the state expects would probably do it. Unfortunately that’ll land whomever participates a prison sentence.
Sadly, most people are selfish and don’t give a shit about horrors happening in another country on the other side of the world.
That’s why, by the way, when news report on horrors, they state “173 dead people including 2 americans”, even though it absolutely does not matter where piece of land the victims were born on.
I canceled 2 accounts. It was strictly about fighting fascism and supporting free speech.
I don’t even remember who it was. Falon or Kimmel? I don’t watch either.
There are a lot of lethargic people who think “Liking” a post will change the world for the better. Canceling Disney services is one of the lowest effort things we collectively could do as it also provides the side benefit of removing a monthly expense in these overpriced times.
Bullshit. Disney doesnt release that information. This is just some random on bluesky chatting shit for worthless internet points and some other desperate sad case repeating it for the same reason.
Disney has over 200k employees. Is it really that much of a stretch that one of them talked to a journalist? I’m not an accountant… haven’t ever talked to one that handles my workplace, but I still know how much money we’re making and how much other branches of the same company are making and what the drama in the other places is and so so much more… people talk… It’s that’s easy.
And even if it’s a lie… Is the 4B drop from disney also a lie? Is the fact that they promptly brought him back also a lie? The fact the first show after his return was watched by 3 times the normal amount of people? The number might be real or it might not, that’s how journalists’ sources work, but it’s accurate that the boycott worked. Even if there were only 10k people, it still had a visible effect. That’s what matters.
Yes it is, its even more hard to believe that that person would talk to a no name on bluesky and tell them “sure, post that shit, mate.”. Considering the world of legal hurt that person would be in… nah.
This is all the same dog shit that was posted when Gina Carano got fired. They had their little boycott, then their click bait press told them a lot of shit about lots of cancellations, followed by drops in stocks, etc etc etc. Its recycled dogshit, and youre all falling for it, just like they did with Carano. Wake the fuck up and see the media for what it is.
Get this through your fucking head. The boycott did not work. Disney doesnt make its money is subs, it makes its money everywhere else. If you really wanted to hurt disney, the way to do that was watching ABC and seeing who the local ads were being run by and then contacting them. They, the advertisers, are who Disney would listen to. They do not give a single fuck about you, me or anyone else who watches their slop.
“get this through your fucking head”… lmao… you’d have a bit more credibility if you weren’t wrong out of the gate about the “no name on bluesky”… and the Carano thing… and if you weren’t cursing just because people disagree with you… And if you weren’t a no name on lemmy… Thanks but… for now I’ll go with the journalist
You are right about one thing, tho, I’ll give you that. Advertisers have a lot more power than me and you. But not all of us together. Sure, getting a ton of people to agree on one thing is hard, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try. That’s what they want you do. To be little obedient little sheep that think they can’t do anything.
I dont give a fuck about disagreeing with me, fill your boots. What I find annoying is that you all get so fucking high and mighty when some shitty media whore says something that fits your narrative, and all of sudden common sense and reason go out the window. And all because what, you want feel like you won something? Pfft.
Yeah, keep replying, that’ll definitely prove that you don’t give a fuck. Also pretty telling if that’s the only point you can argue against.
FFS, dude. Seek help.
Thank you… I was gonna say, no 1.7 million even care enough about free speech to do that, and much less about that talentless Kimmel
I could give a fuck less about corpo profits. I care only to the point where they can be used to manipulate the corpos.
Don’t resubscribe to any of the Disney related streaming services. Find your love in the high seas, mateys!
You know, I am starting to see why people are romanticising pirates. The lackadaisical attitude and freedom that pirates had, given the encroaching techno-fascism at the moment, is starting to become appealing; not that I condone the violence the pirates did.
I cancelled after having the service for several years.
And then they jacked up the prices? Good luck with that shit, bozos.
They gotta leach more money from the people addicted to Disney, to make up for the subscriber loss. Line goes up no matter what.
Keep the boycott going.
Disney caved in to POWER, and then Disney caved in to money.
Their morals are all wrong. People were not even in the equation.
Morales my dear sir? A corporation is a base beast. You can teach it the lessons of carrot and stick, but do not be so fooled as to think it can learn compassion or morality. When left alone in the darkness this little mouse’s eyes glow orange and its jowls drip moist with frothy salivation.
In some way, a similar thing needs to be done to any entity supporting or bowing to Trump. From countries to colleges to people in the government and so on. The big question is how to do that, how to get people to come together and do that.
This. Money is the ONLY language a corporation understands. If you hit them hard and fast after they kowtow, then the link is undeniable.
They lost $6.4 Billion in valuation.
Good
I’d like to know where those numbers are coming from, but it is believable.
Wouldn’t be surprised if it was an internal leak. There’s a lot of hands around this data it’s easy for someone to slip.
Probably from Disney, there’s no way for anyone else to know.
Bend the knee again. I dare ya. I double dog dare ya.
