• grue@lemmy.world
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    What people think of when they hear the word “yacht:”

    The size of boat the whales are actually attacking:

    I know everybody wants to root for the whales attacking the billionaire 1%, but that’s not what’s actually happening.

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      You “only” need to be a hundred millionaire in order to afford to maintain the one in the second photo.

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        A 40ft Bohemian? A five year old one will set you back €200k in good condition, and cost around 10% of its value in maintenance, mooring and repairs each year.

        People have cars more expensive than that on their driveways.

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          And they spend 20k a year to maintain their car?

          That’s more than many people make in a year. Get a grip.

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            You’re right, many people don’t make 20k per year. But my point was that you don’t need hundreds of millions to afford a sailing yacht, and I don’t need to be attacked for adding some data to your comment. Perhaps it is you who should get “a grip” on your interpersonal skills?

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              Sweet just point me to that different job. I’m in central Maine. Since we’re being picky please find one that’s over 60k. I have 15 years in management, sales, compliance etc

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          …not if you are poor quick check on google. Found the world inequality database. Richest 3% of income is $250k per year usd 240 million people reach this level globally. Richest 6% wealth wise globally is around $1 million usd 480 million people have that wealth which i mean is a lot but that is probably all land and housing. Soooo yeah way less then 1% globally could really afford this boat.

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            You’d be surprised how many owners of 40-foot “yachts” own them instead of houses and live aboard full-time in order to save money (among other lifestyle reasons).

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              Sure, man. Sure.

              Boats are typically considered yachts when they are or exceed 24 meters.

              A potential buyer of a superyacht with a net worth of around €25,000,000 might consider that 10-30% of their net worth invested in a used superyacht is something that they can reasonably afford, whereas potential buyers of new yachts might want to have a net worth in excess of €50,000,000 to feel comfortable.

              It is estimated that around 130,000 people may have this level of wealth worldwide although experts reckon that only a few thousand individuals are actively involved in owning, building, buying and selling the approximately 8,700 motor and 1,750 sailing superyachts over 24 metres that have been built.

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                First of all, you’re wrong: any sailboat that has a cabin for living aboard, even if it’s a shitty dilapidated Catalina 27 that you buy for $1, is a “yacht.”

                Second, even if you were right, don’t bitch at me, bitch at the article writer. They’re the ones who first called it a “yacht,” even though from the video you can clearly see that it’s way smaller than 24 meters.


                I found another article about the incident that contained enough information to track down exactly which boat it was: “Oceanview” owned by Nautic Squad Club, a Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 349. Only 34 feet long, yet still described as a “yacht” by literally everybody but you.

                By the way, most of the listings for that model of boat on Yachtworld are under $200k.

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                  It is very arbitrary, sure.

                  I think a main thing is people who describe their boats as yachts usually aren’t going from paycheck to paycheck.

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        I know plenty of people who are by no means rich who live on boats that size. Its basically the marine equivalent of living in a camper.

        My best friend lived on one for more than a decade. he got for like $3k and put like $9k of work into it. Had his first kid living on that boat because he couldn’t afford to live on land.

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          That’s a whole different lifestyle tho, the orcas are not attacking the boat slips. Mad props to people who live on boats. In the 2008 recession it was a great housing option for the poor

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        You might be surprised at how cheap these things can go. They are a lot to maintain but may not be so much to buy.

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      I don’t know who you consider a rich fuck but a yacht like this cost maybe $70k. It’s not much different than owning a car.

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        Yes it’s just like owning a car! Which we primarily use to get to work and earn money to pay for the car!!! What do you do in a boat??? Oh ya!!! Not working and scoot around all day. Must be nice!

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          What do you do in a boat???

          A boat like this one? You fuckin’ live in it instead of a house (and at a much lower cost).

          I mean, not this exact one from the article because it was a rental, but in general a lot of yachts in this ~40’ range are owned by couples and used for the nautical equivalent of #vanlife.

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          Lot’s of people have hobby cars. I don’t own a second car or a boat but I don’t consider everyone who has one rich. Those people still go to work every day and save for retirement. We’re talking about good wage job, not being a millionaire.

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        Shit, I hadn’t thought of that, the poor, poor people who can afford $70,000 recreation craft. Won’t someone think of the sailboat owners.

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          Where do you draw the line? Who do you consider a “rich fuck”? I know a carpenter who restored an ultra light airplane. This rich fuck better watch out when the class war comes!

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            If you’re not living in a tent in a public park then you don’t deserve to live.

            And people wonder why everyone hates leftists.

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        The initial cost of a boat is like 1% of what the person ends up spending to maintain it.

        There is a reason why people say that boats are, “a hole in the water to throw your money into”

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        The real class war will be between people who ate yesterday and people who did not eat yesterday. I’m pretty sure there’s some food on that boat.

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          I ate yesterday. You’re saying I’m in the same boat (pun intended) as Bezos?