Which says a lot about the quality of Fox “News” and their so-called “experts”.
This is where we are. The fall of a once mighty and respected nation, for the sale of clicks on a virtual landscape.
Kind of a click bait-y title. They claim there is no afterlife besides heaven, Hitler is dead, therefore Hitler went to heaven. In their mythology, hell doesn’t exist.
They’re also a raging antisemite who thinks the Nazis did nothing wrong and fascism is the only way to save America. So in a roundabout way the title isn’t that wrong.
Kind of a clock bait-y title. They claim there is no afterlife besides heaven, Hitler is dead, therefore Hitler went to heaven. In their mythology, hell doesn’t exist.
Oh, that’s actually not a terrible idea if you believe in an absolutely good deity. No matter how much pain and suffering you cause during a finite time you are alive, it can’t possibly justify being tortured in hell for eternity. You wouldn’t go around saying Hitler went to heaven, but I can see them being put on a spot and having to concede this unpopular point.
They’re also a raging antisemite who thinks the Nazis did nothing wrong and fascism is the only way to save America. So I’m a roundabout way the title isn’t that wrong.
Oh. Oh no.
They’re just trying to make Trump feel better since he’s been wondering lately if he’ll get into heaven.
A friendly reminder that she was a Prager U staff.
PragerU and discovery institute are ground zero for religious brain rot & bootlicking lessons
She was also part of the highly astroturfed “#walkaway” movement - a group of supposed “liberals” who left the Left to join the MAGA side. She is a grifter of the highest level.
Awful shit aside, I thought people generally believed that you don’t go to heaven if you commit suicide?
It’s a primarily a Catholic thing. The reasoning is that for every sin you commit, you must ask forgiveness (confession). By committing suicide, you have committed a sin but cannot ask for forgiveness and are thus condemned.
I never understood why you couldn’t ask posthumously
It’s almost as if it’s a bunch of nonsense
🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ for me it’s you believe in an all powerful omnipresent and all the other Omni deity that grants you entrance to an eternal afterlife and knowing the concept of humanity is born into sin and nothing we do truly makes us sinless combined with 'Once saved, always saved" why would this one sin prevent you entry? Some would argue cardinal sins or some sins carry more weight but all sin is equal. Humans give sin a tier system. Not God.
Can you beg for forgiveness before doing the suicide?
No. Being able to do that was why Martin Luther had the whole problem with indulgences.
You could pay the church to forgive a sin before committing it.
I grew up in an evangelical church, and it most certainly is not a primarily Catholic thing.
True story… saw a documentary about it starting Keanu Reeves
Hitler no longer exists. We do, and we have to confront the reality that people like Hitler still find their way into civic office where they can seize power and bring ruin to us all.
It’s not a good thing for us to imagine a divine justice that balances out the evil wrought by persons past. It may be a brief comfort to suggest that Hitler burns in Hellfire, that Mengele, after living a long life as a fugitive, died a free man, that Heydrich’s torment didn’t end with his dying battle against sepsis, but in the end we have to come to terms that nature is unjust and if we want a world in which good folk thrive and wicked folk fail to survive, this is a society and an institution we’ll have to create ourselves, from scratch.
And so far, we suck at it.
Better yet, ultimately we should recognize that people who make poor life choices are still surviving the best they could. In a working society, Hitlers and Trumps would not rise to power, and Heydrichs and Himmlers would not be able to exploit the biases of the system to elevate themselves to aristocracy-adjacent positions. In a working society, the only thing to gain with civic power would be the satisfaction of the fulfillment of one’s duty to society… and that one gets to direct the movement of mountains and the construction of bridges for the betterment of all the community.
It’s boring, but personally I’d rather constrain wars and torture and genocide to the confines of fiction. Make sports news, whether tragic or glorious, great again.
In other words, there is no justice. There’s just us.
It’s up to us to make justice a real thing, because there are no cosmic forces that will do it for us.
Religion, a severe form of mental illness, is the greatest threat humanity faces.
Right?
If I said a flying purple people eater was my lord and savior and that flying purple people eater died for our sins but not before his father, a flying spaghetti monster, instructed an old man to build a space ship that a few humans and two of every animal on the planet (and I guess all the plants too) went on and orbited around the Earth while the flying spaghetti monster supreme being was fucking the surface of the Earth up and then repopulated the planet from space afterward and I went to a pineapple under the sea every Sunday to worship both the flying spaghetti monster and the flying purple people eater, who are actually the same being…would you say I had a severe form of mental illness?
They walk among us. And they’re clinically insane. And a lot of them have guns.
Exactly why we’ll never find peace in the middle east. Too many people, whether from opposing religions or even the same religion, quietly listening to their invisible friends constant urges to bomb one another.
One of the most chilling accounts of the holocaust, is a person describing being ushered on a train, being told, they are being relocated and they will have a hot meal and clothes and blankets when they arrive. The approach a huge hill, with a big line, the guards gleefully telling them they will get hot meals and everything else as soon as they get in, this guard of course was playing a cruel joke. His mind destroyed by the depravity of the Nazis.
Then the victim describes topping the hill to see mass graves and they arrive at a station where a Nazi looks in their mouth to see if they have any gold and silver teeth, and proceeds to yank them out before they get into the camp. That is Adolf Hitler. There is a reason people refer to him as the most evil person. Sure others killed more indirectly, but Hitler killed millions systematically and with intention. Pure hatred and pure depravity and pure existential nihilism.
Other thing these far right psychos were doing, human experimentation, vivisection, (operating on people while they are alive) to do medical experiments. Freezing people to death to see how long it would take frost bite to kill them. Mind control and brainwashing experiments. Testing drugs on them. One of the guys who was operating on living prisoners was named Joseph Mangdeleve. After the war he was sent to the U.S to work with the CIA and eventually ended up in a psychiatric hospital in Canada where he ended up operating on live human test subjects once again. All of this within full knowledge of the entire U.S, U.K, and Canadian government.
When you realize the full history of what the U.S and other right wing governments have been up to, Epstein seems fairly tame in comparison. Epstein is nowhere near the worse person the U.S protected and essentially made into a spy with diplomatic immunity.
When you refer to Joseph Mangdeleve, are you confusing Josef Mengelev (Nazi doctor, escaped to Argentina, drowned at the beach in 1979) with Ewen Cameron, Scottish doctor involved in MK ULTRA in Canada and the US for the CIA, testing LSD on mental patients?
Cameron wasn’t associated with the nazi party, although his experiments were probably inspired by Nazi work including Mengelev, who did do lots of experiments on concerntration camp victims, especially twins.
The Nazi
What’s your source that says Mengelev worked for the CIA in Canada and did experiments on people there?
I don’t even think you could find a source for that anymore. I researched that nearly 20 years ago. Nowadays almost every search engine on the web will not even allow you to search for stuff like that, or even things like who is funding your political parties. There is a ton of stuff being censored nowadays. Also if you do find good sources, you should archive it and not reveal it to anyone on the internet, only in real life, because they will scrub it from the internet. This is the main thing they are using their surveillance to do as far as I can tell, find any information they don’t want out there and scrubbing it. They are crowd sourcing it and are probably using AI to do it now, but that’s still expensive per token so they are still relying a lot on mass surveillance to try to erase history.
Pretty sure I’ve killed more in Stellaris.
Let’s see: Stolen the lands of lithoid species, purged some cute murder geckos that tried to annihilate my civilization, purged some sentient fungi, purged some space foxes because they were in my future property, deactivated some ancient robots, turned sentient plants into food, purged some xenos that dared to look human but not quite and blew up some stars for funs.
Lil Adolf is just a noob in comparison.
Again with shitty fucking takes. Touch grass
I live in a desert
Then buy grass to touch it
Why? I’d rather use my money in food to survive the day
Cause you need a dose a reality
I see that every day I go to my work and see how decadent and crime infested my country is
Yeah… God once told Peter “whoever kills this Hitler dude goes straight up, no questions asked”.
God later blamed a bac of .12 for his decision, and brought up how awkward it was to have his Jewish kid keep running into Hitler.
Call me crazy, but I don’t think anything is going to get better in this country until we cancel anti-American propaganda networks on American television.
I’ve been around long enough to have witnessed Fox “News” and dipshits like Rush Limbaugh cause the current mania we’re experiencing.
It really is all on them. It wasn’t like this before they showed up.
Let’s assume god was ok with someone ordering the extermination of an entire group of people. Hitler died by suicide and the last time I checked that was still a no-no.
The torture, the sex crimes at all levels, reducing humanity to chattel and ash. If there’s a god that approves of any of that, I’m staying atheist (in fact, the “problem of justice” is a philosophical argument against god, and that applies very much to the holocaust).
I’m staying atheist
Great. Now he will burn even more people. But you do you.
/s, “obviously”
Let’s assume god was ok with someone ordering the extermination of an entire group of people.
Don’t need to assume, we know for a fact he endorses it.
Deuteronomy 20.
16 However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy[a] them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you.
A separate fun fact, zionists believe Palestinians are the descendants of amalek. I’ll leave what that implies as an exercise for the reader.
According to whom? (Referring to suicide being a no-no. This is not Holocaust denial.)
I assumed it was explicitly forbidden in the book, but instead it looks like the reasoning is “murder is explicitly forbidden and technically, suicide is murdering yourself”
Btw those “religious” people like to ignore inconvenient parts of the book
Suicide is the only murder you cannot ask forgiveness for. (because you are dead and already under judgement for your deeds in life)
Not sure we were all told he killed himself. Who knows someone else could of pulled the trigger. But regardless no way he went to heaven. He would have never asked for forgiveness but in his mind he did nothing wrong.
could of
Sorry, what?
Don’t start looking into the research about the skull we were all told to be his.
Well, God IS quite okay with genocides, AND he killed Hitler. Of course he went to heaven
Pope Francis went on the record saying he hoped Hell is empty. Torturing even the worst person for all eternity is overkill in my opinion, maybe after 500, 5000, 5 million years of celestial reeducation, if he really put the effort in, Hitler’s soul could be free. He’s only human and given the absolute worst circumstances and decisions I believe any of us could end up fucking up as bad as him.
FWIW I dont really believe in an afterlife but I do want to believe in universal redemption, as difficult as that can be sometimes.
All dogs go to heaven and Nazis should be shot like rabid dogs, therefore
If killing six million people doesn’t send you to hell, nothing will.
He was just lucky there was no right wing podcast bro among them
Well, wanking does.
All the atheist collectively rolled their eyes at the same time.
If I believed in religion, I would be very mad at these idiots insinuating that a mass murdering dictator would have any chance of getting into heaven.
This Hitler restoration trend is terrifying.
