Who’s the “our” in “our farms” referring to? 👀
A very good point.
…right , so only the family farms? Not any farm owned by a corporation, right?
I was thinking more like “farms collectively owned by the populace”…
You know…good people. (Pay no attention to the fact that the definition of good people changes wildly every day based on the moods and whims of Dear Leader.)
Real farmer here(who has never voted red). I don’t trust the average American not to completely fuck up any harvest and not to bitch constantly about the heat or dirt. It’s bad enough hearing people who work in AC complain about the heat to me.
I worked on an assembly line making CV joints. The inner and outer races had a numbering system based on measured size. The outer races were honed, and there would be size variations we would have to keep adjusting for. 4 inners go with 4 outers, 5 inners with 5 outers and so on. 4 was the most common.
One shift, on a Saturday, one of the workers used 4s for everything. Some were failing, inspection at the end of the line, but a lot didn’t. Well, then the 4s ran out. Since that is the most common size, we were down. She intentionally ran us out of parts by building things wrong, potentially making scrap or defective drive train parts because she didn’t want to work on Saturday.
Her job, that she applied for and took, knowing there are times when would have to work weekends. A job with a good union and Healthcare.
I can only imagine the kind of employees you’d get by forcing them to work the fields, for I’m going to guess way less than UAW wages. In the sun. I think you’d see a lot of sabotaged equipment or crops.
Not trying to justify her or anything, but companies do love to abuse shit.
Yes, being expected to occasionally work overtime is a reasonable expectation.
However, most companies will just keep doing it. Im sorry, if I have to work overtime almost every single shift for more than 2 weeks - that is not reasonable. (And that shit happens even with unions)
Seriously, this person is making CV joints. It’s not like they are a doctor or a firefighter. I don’t see the urgency. This world needs to chill.
“That’s right, the 4 goes in the square hole”
~That Lady
I always love that video.
Under this plan, would the farms be nationalized, or would people be forced to work for the profit of private farm owners?
Nope. It’s slavery. They want to do a slavery.
And not even smart. Farming today is sonething you have to train at and want / need to do. Grab 100 people that have never farmed before and set them loose in a field to find out how quickly crops burn.
Hint: Marxist-Leninists really like slavery, so that’s not a distinguishing factor.
Are we also nationalizing the farms?
Only the losses!
Next we kill all the birds!
Nationalized industry that always produces food at cost and pays all of its workers well and fairly would be a great idea so long as the people setting it up aren’t completely untrustworthy fucks.
Oh wait
If only it came with a few more aspects of maoism. Like the obliteration of landlords
Judging by how hard the GOP is fighting to protect the Epstein files, they have some other things in common with Mao.
they have some other things in common with Mao.
Evidence?
You mean a wanton disregard for the will of the people right?..…Right Annikin?
Those guys could finally get jobs!
And they and their rich friends will find a way to pay their way out of it
They’ll each own one of the farms, and claim that means they work there every day already.
I wonder how many rich kids will develop bone spurs?
Ok, they can work retail.
Not while you forbid cashiers to work sitting down for no reason at all.
Come to Walgreens where you are forced to keep busy 9 hours straight on your feet. Cashier can’t just wait on customers. Nope they must constantly look busy stocking etc. It’s hell!
When you only have one person operating the entire store, it’s so much better for everyone (who owns the store)!
Seriously. I went in for some passport photos and there was literally one guy working there. We had to wait for him to finish sticking and working at the cash register before we got helped.
I didn’t say Dollar General. I said Walgreens. We close the store if only 1 employee is available for work.
Not sure where you got dollar general, but I’m talking about Walgreens too.
And I don’t think this was only one guy available, this looked to be “mid day we only need 1 guy” sort of deal.
We never have one dude. Always two ALWAYS. You probably didn’t see the shift lead working the back. But associates must have a lead on hand. Also Walgreens policy is to close the store if not at least two employees on hand period.
Bone spurs don’t stop you from standing for 8 hours.
To be honest, I’ve never actually looked up what bone spurs are. I’ve only ever heard it in the BS-rich context that is Trump, so I didn’t bother looking up facts ¯\(ツ)/¯
Thank you for educating me.
So… Slavery with more steps?
Slavery, but with overweight incompetent people.
We should use the budget we use to put people through the army to instead have them work on public works projects. Maybe it can just be part of being in the army. Not just farm work but construction work and especially maintenance work.
The government can hire people without making them indentured slaves or trained killers. Well, at least it used to be able to do that
Yeah, but this ensures young rich people have to work an actual job at least once in their lives too.
Young rich people will be driving the heavy farming machinery in air conditioned cabins while the conscripted poor people do the manual backbreaking labor in the scorching sun or freezing wind.
Make it so the farmer has to pay the median wage to anyone drafted like this.
I bet they’ll shut up real fast.
Hell back in HS we got first shot at detasseling corn and deroguing beans. I lasted a day, some boys lasted a few. By the time they brought in the mexicans a week later, there would be maybe 2 of the scariest foodball players left, and they did make decent money by the end of their little stint.
Your average person is going to get heatstroke from this.
I arguably hate Maoism the most of all popular authoritarian left ideologies. So it makes sense to me that irredeemably evil and stupid conservatives and fascists would unconsciously like it’s policies.
Great. We all say this about the service industry, too. So since farming is your life blood you think its hard and people need to understand.
By that logic, everyone should be drafted for many different vocations to gain perspective on other people’s careers.
Edit: Also it seems she’s implying that someone else will pay the wages if she wants a draft. She wouldn’t have to rely on imported employees if she payed a living wage to begin with.
Everyone should have experienced working retail. That should reduce the amount of Karen’s massively!
Do serious farmers even want inexperienced randos picking their precious harvest though? I guess it might depend on the crop, but a lot of vegetables and fruits need the proper handling, or they’ll be ruined or at least second-rate.
There was some politician way back, can’t remember who, was going on about getting convicted felons in prison to pick crops.
Yeah no.
Tbh, I think especially the work-intensive low-qualification jobs like picking berries and stuff are easy enough to teach. I’d be more afraid of people who really don’t want to be there doing the job.
The people doing the job right now really need the money, so even if they most likely don’t enjoy doing the job either, they have a lot of incentive to perform well.
If you put some rich kid there who is just biding their time, that can’t be fired and that doesn’t need the money either, they will likely be nothing more but a waste of space at best and actively harmful at worst.
LOL yes if you enslaved me to enrich some POS by working his land I would absolutely be at best useless on purpose and if I could “accidentally” make it worse eg dropping stuff or messing it up in transit I absolutely would.
Sadly it’s probably too much to wish for that they’d develop empathy for the real workers and use the cushion of their wealth to help support a strike for a fairer share of profits/subsidies. Iirc, there’s already a farm workers union since Cesar Chavez but it’s weak because members are poor and transient.
As somebody that worked in a cornfield for minimum wage, it sucks. Your feet get heavy with mud, it’s hot, the leaves give you “papercuts”. One summer is enough to make you never want to do it again.
