• melsaskca@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    12 hours ago

    The information on the tiny amount of epstein files released might be titillating but the real meat and potatoes is in the rest of the huge mountain of information that they did not release.

  • 🔍🦘🛎@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    46
    ·
    1 day ago

    The fucking state of Virginia is calling for a moment of silence over this guy. What the hell is going on?

      • Randomgal@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        1 day ago

        Oh damn I can’t wait to faicism to fall now that the files are coming out.

        Anytime now guys. Definitely not a distraction or a waste of time.

        • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksM
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          6
          ·
          1 day ago

          Idk, light magas around the edges might be swayed once they hear all of the times their leader acts like a pedophile and surrounds himself with pedophiles.

          • Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            12 hours ago

            My maga family (who I dont speak with since even before maga) all covered up the sexual crimes of the men in the family.

            Maybe some folks it will sway, but honestly I highly doubt it would be a majority.

          • Randomgal@lemmy.ca
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            1 day ago

            You think they don’t know? It’s not like this is a secret lol. He is a convicted felon.

            But sure, the next felony will be the one I’m sure. Lmoa

            • djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              5
              ·
              edit-2
              1 day ago

              You think they don’t know?

              Yes. In fact, I’m certain they don’t. You have to understand, Trump voters don’t live in our reality. They live in a fabricated fantasyland created by the slop media they consume. They think Donald Trump is fighting the pedophiles, because that is what they have been told to believe. All of the attacks on him are “fake news” because they’re from mainstream media sources, which they have been told to never trust.

              If concrete evidence that they have been directly lied to is distributed to them by a source they trust, I can’t say for sure what would happen, but it’s probably the best chance for them to be deprogrammed.

              • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                13 hours ago

                Yes. In fact, I’m certain they don’t. You have to understand, Trump voters don’t live in our reality.

                So this will bring them into reality? Why would they start living in it now all of the sudden? They will create some alternate theory in their minds and cling to it if they have to.

              • Randomgal@lemmy.ca
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                1 day ago

                Sound like you don’t live in our reality my dude.

                If you keep underestimating everyone who doesn’t agree with you, it’ll be difficult to think of true, inclusive change.

                They know. And they understand. The just reach different conclusions and actions with the same information and capabilities as you.

                Like you, most people aren’t passive receptacles of what happens around them. But not everyone will react the same way or think the same thing as you.

                That’s doesn’t mean they ‘live in a fabricated fantasy land’. That’s just the pc way to dehumanize people.

                They are different people, and you need to see them as that if you actually care about them. Then you might be able to have honest, constructive conversations. People don’t disagree with facts, they disagree with people.

                And acting like they’re stupid and you’re God’s smartest cookie is an easy way to get people to disagree with you.

                Cheers.

                • djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  3
                  ·
                  1 day ago

                  You’re just being condescending and seem to have never interacted with them person to person. I live here. I deal with them daily. I have heard them double down on insane nonsense that I don’t know if you could dream of.

                  90% of what you said are inferences you are making. I understand they are victims of propoganda. It doesn’t seem like you do.

      • ObjectivityIncarnate@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        1 day ago

        Some messages made references to Trump, though they do not provide any evidence of criminal conduct.

        Welp.

        The article also doesn’t mention those communications implicating anyone (alive) other than Maxwell, which isn’t nothing, but definitely not the illumination people were hoping for, I don’t think.

        • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksM
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          edit-2
          1 day ago

          You’re right, you made me dig a little further.

          Edit: Here is one of the mentions of Trump:

          Trump’s name surfaced again around the time Epstein was making an intense backchannel lobbying effort to get federal prosecutors to drop their case against him. It was in an email dated Aug. 23, 2007, a month before Epstein signed the non-prosecution agreement with the US Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of Florida that ended the federal component of the Epstein investigation.

          The emails indicate that Maxwell may have been referring to a team of reporters covering Epstein who she expected would be seeking information from Trump; from Abe Gosman, the late healthcare magnate whose palatial property sold to Trump for $41 million after a heated bidding war with Epstein; from court documents in West Palm Beach; and from Joel Pashcow, the Palm Beach police and fire foundation board member who’d traveled on Epstein’s private jet. Pashcow did not respond to a request for comment.

          https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2025-jeffrey-epstein-emails-ghislaine-maxwell/

          Here is what is on Prince Andrew:

          The unsealed documents released Thursday also contain allegations that Jane Doe 3 — whose allegations match those of Giuffre — was “forced” to have sexual relations with Prince Andrew on Epstein’s private island in what was described as “an orgy” with numerous other under-aged girls. It does not specify the year. The woman was allegedly instructed by Epstein to “give the Prince whatever he demanded” and “report back to him on the details of the sexual abuse.”

          https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/unsealed-documents-show-epstein-maxwell-correspondence-2015-n1235307

          The email proves he knew Epstein at least as long as Epestein had the island up and running.

          • ObjectivityIncarnate@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            22 hours ago

            The email proves he knew Epstein at least as long as Epestein had the island up and running.

            That’s not enough to convict him of anything, though. It’s sounding more and more like there won’t be any smoking gun in these files, at least not when it comes to Trump specifically.

    • philosloppy@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      1 day ago

      the far-right establishment behind the Trump administration is preparing to use this as the justification for the incoming Reichstagsbrandverordnung.

      They’ve got their van der Lubbe now and they’re working to get their bullshit in before Nov 2026

    • theparadox@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 day ago

      The same thing that the billionaires have been doing. Paying fealty and demonstrating loyalty in the hopes of avoiding attack or maybe even getting rewarded.

  • Samuelwankenobi@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    11
    ·
    1 day ago

    Boycott the NFL if you like American style football just watch Canadian or Australian football or even rugby they are all close enough and in some cases like Australian football I would say are better

  • jmsy@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    54
    ·
    2 days ago

    The last time I checked, and fuck me if I’m wrong, the NFL has several black athletes. What did kirk say about black people?

    • shawn1122@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      62
      ·
      edit-2
      1 day ago

      Calling the Civil Rights Act of 1964 a “huge mistake”

      Describing Martin Luther King Jr. as “awful” and “not a good person”

      Stated “If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to think, ‘I hope he’s qualified’”

      Claimed successful Black women like Joy Reid, Michelle Obama, and Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson were “affirmative action picks” who “do not possess the cognitive capacity to be taken seriously”

    • jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      21
      ·
      1 day ago

      The league only cares about black athletes to the degree that it can profit off their performance.

      Case in point: Colin Kaepernick knelt during the national anthem – which was honestly an extremely mild form of protest – and was immediately black-balled.

      If they do care about black athletes, they clearly care about money a lot more.

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        13 hours ago

        The players are unionized, and the NFLPA has a lot of strong black voices in leadership if I recall (at least as of the last time I looked into it)… But yeah I doubt they’ll do anything unfortunately.

  • Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    76
    ·
    2 days ago

    NFL and nhl are really showing how much they dig fascism. Can’t quite tell with the mlb but the cardinals sure as shit are so fuck them

  • frankpsy@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    1 day ago

    I saw an electronic billboard yesterday on the road that said “In Rememberance Today” or something like that and started getting angry thinking they were talking about Charlie Kirk but then I’m like, oh damn, I done forgot…

  • BeeegScaaawyCripple@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    1 day ago

    I said they weren’t gonna, and they didn’t. We got a big ol flag display outside town, the towns proud of it. It goes to half staff when appropriate. It did not fly half staff yesterday.

  • moondoggie@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    15
    ·
    2 days ago

    Man would I get my ass kicked once I started up my “CHARLIE KIRK’S IN HELL clap clap clapclapclap” chant during the moment of silence.

    • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 day ago

      Carry around a couple of bricks. They wanna beat your ass? Hold a brick in each hand and start throwing punches back. You’ll break your hands in the process if you hit them with your hands, but you’ll also shatter any bones of theirs that you touch.

      • hovercat@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 day ago

        This is why if you want to start shit, you ride a motorcycle. Never get in a fight with someone wearing a motorcycle helmet.