• WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca
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    Careful, every American on Lemmy has about 6 or 7 thought-stopping cliches ready to defend their cowardly fucking inaction.

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        I don’t respect the position, but I appreciate that you’ve got more integrity than just about everyone else I get responses from.

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      The fact that you’re posting this means you’re not dead or in prison, which thought-stopping cliche will you use to explain your cowardly inaction?

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        Or maybe I don’t live in a shithole country?

        You guys’ America-centric assumptions are really more in line with what we tend to see from MAGA chuds. Guess I shouldn’t be surprised that you aren’t fighting back too hard.

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            The people the rest of the world has been warning for decades that this very situation would occur if you kept doing what you were doing? The people who got belligerent and shitty when we pointed out the path they were on? Easy to criticize them? Yeah, it very much is.

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              This is Lemmy, the vast majority of Americans here lean hard left. We knew. What exactly were we supposed to do? Die immediately in an immature revolution? Magically devise the perfect argument to overcome a century of anti-left propaganda?

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                No, you’re right, you’ve done plenty. You should feel very pleased with your effort. You deserve a rest, even. Have yourself a nap and I promise nobody will wake you up to tell you how goofy it is that you just called Americans on Lemmy “hard left” 😅

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                  criticizes what other people are doing

                  does nothing

                  WHY ARENT YOU GUYS DOING ANYTHING BUT POSTING ON THE INTERNET? does nothing but post on the internet

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              The people who got belligerent and shitty when we pointed out the path they were on? Easy to criticize them? Yeah, it very much is.

              A bunch of us have had to live right next door to these people the whole time. Sometimes it’s so ridiculous that I think the simulation overseers are experimenting with the opposite of the simulated utopia from The Matrix that failed. Is there a level of absurdity that will get us to reject the simulation en masse?

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          I guess I should quit my job and condemn my family to destitution because some guy on Lemmy called me a pussy for not fighting the government. Rofl.

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            Right, that’s what the rest of the world is waiting on Americans to do: quit their job.

            “Do nothing” is so ingrained in the American psyche that when pushed to do something the only thing they can think of is doing even less.

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              No. I’m not quitting my job. That’s the dumbest fucking thing anyone could suggest. Grow up.

              If there’s a general strike, I’ll participate. Quitting my job and condemning my family to starve? Fuck outta here with that childish nonsense.

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                No one actually suggested you quit your job. YOU’RE the one that said that and I was pointing out the absurdity that that is the first and only place you go. Are you lost?

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            As long as you can point to a country you believe is doing worse there is no reason to want yours to do better. You are just mainlining that propaganda aren’t you?

            “America is the greatest country on earth!”*

            *Not due to actually being great in any way, just due to the fact that we believe other countries are at least slightly worse, and that’s good enough for me!

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    At this point I’m pretty sure at least half the people cirtisizing lack of violence in America are feds trying to get people to spill incriminating evidence. You look stupid complaining online about not hearing about shit you can’t say online. No one’s booting up an onion router to brag to some shithead on lemmy about how they returned a tear gas canister to the cops.

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      People really love criticizing the US and fair enough, but man it’s tiring seeing people lambasting the US for not violently resisting when we actively are and it’s just being suppressed by the media. Without cooperation from the head of the executive branch we can’t storm congress, but we’re doing a whole fuckload despite that…

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          Well since local media aren’t covering them and many foreign ones step in line to not upset lord trump, the only way to get examples is to attend them.

          The cities he sent military to were the cities that had largest protests.

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              So, guaranteed death? USA will not use billy clubs and shields to knock down protesters. They will SHOOT and kill.

              I’m not dying because we have 80 million retarded cunts here.

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                People are already DYING, what bodycount can your conscience hold?

                Oh and did you miss all the students who were shot and killed in Nepal? You can find videos of them bleeding out in the streets with people desperately trying to save them, kids dying in school uniforms as they protest, but sure billy clubs.

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                  Are you just going for a shock reaction, or are you seriously trying to neg other people into dying for you?

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                  Dude, there’s no way you can argue your way into making someone feel bad for not wanting to risk their life in a violent resistance against their own government.

                  That’s a choice every person have to make for themselves. You don’t know them. You don’t know their situation.

                  You seriously need to take a step back and sit down.

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                Setting things in fire, erecting barricades, actively fighting authorities and creating chaos, making it impossible to ignore. For examples see the Maiden revolution in Ukraine, Hong Kong protests a few years ago, or any Tuesday afternoon in France.

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                  Orange revolution and Euromaidan in Ukraine were peaceful protests the government responded violently to them which energized more people.

                  In Poland Solidarity also was peaceful and the one that created violence was the government.

                  Historically peaceful protests like the above are more effective, because more people are willing to join them.

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        No your not. Your volunteering to go into the street to be rounded up by the cops. It’s the stupidest fucking thing. You literally have the equivalent of the printing Press giving to every person and you all think it’s easier to organize people to publicly show up in a town three states over then it is to use get those people to use the propaganda machine to spread a message.

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        Without cooperation from the head of the executive branch

        We cannot protest the government without support from the government.

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      Yeah, it’s not like your country has based its entire identity for two centuries on its spirit of violently resisting tyranny against great odds

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      Yes, for example the Gurkhas are from Nepal.

      Or did you mean the regular army? They put down a major Maoist insurgency over the decade of 1996-2006, and have remained a significant force in Nepal. Historically they’ve played a major role in power transitions, such as the Rana era from 1846-1951 when military officer Jung Bahadur Rana overthrew the monarchy and established a hereditary prime ministership, and then again in King Mahendra’s 1960 coup when the monarchy took power until the 1990s.

      But fortunately they’ve not been as prominently involved at playing “kingmaker” as the militaries of many other South Asian countries. They tend to act as a stabilizing force for whoever gets power by other means. I guess we’ll see if that pattern continues to the current unrest.

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    We tried in 2020, libs quickly coopted the movement by pretending to be at the front of it and that we had less radical demands, defused it by pretending to agree to those demands, and then supported republicans in opposing any of the demands, with Biden telling states to divert covid funds to police. Before I left, people seemed too tired and beaten down to really try again.

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    Lemmy is so USA centric they did not notice the people sponsoring Nepal’s protests are the exactly the same people in charge of USA right now.

    The ban on USA big tech industry is a sovereignty statement, and every country should do that, USA is literally stealing data from other countries, since data is the new gold, the name of the game is digital colonialism, you should read more about that if you have more than two brain cells

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      Source?

      Second part - Every country that currently has the capability is “stealing” data. I’m not deflecting from the US’s actions, but let’s do the math here and pick something that everyone isn’t in the same glass house together.

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        Yeah, sure let’s keep pretending that there’s not only few countries in the world where the US CAN NOT steal data because they LOST a war

        As I said Lemmy is very US centric, you guys are not able to look at any thing else other than your own aases

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    You can make the meme for most countries in the west. The past couple days have been us celebrating the latest Banksy performative protest as if that’s done anything more than be more art in the ocean of art to be snooty about socially and continue on with the ever weak art based protest. 30 years of performative art centric leftist culture and 30 years of neoliberalism shifting further and further to the right

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    trump didn’t give a blanket “y’all either obey me or you’re out” to all social media, blocking all except tiktok, no wonder 'muricans are still sleeping